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Hi Mike. It must have just been Mercury in Retrograde or something, because I haven't seen it since. It works fine now, both in Firefox and IE. And, by the way I just checked Opera7; also fine. 'Course the neat rollover effect doesn't work in IE, but I suppose whaddya expect, eh? I especially like that it degraded nicely when I couldn't get the style sheet. Good stuff. Jim

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Count me in on the Traeger Group bandwagon. It allows expansion into other things, and implies an association of related ... uh ... Groups.

Now it's coming up fine for me, too. Second the Very nice, Mike. Thumbs Up

Good morning. For some reason my browsers (IE6 and Firefox) can't find or won't load the Stye Sheet. Could have something to do with the absolute path to it? Dunno; just a thought.

Kasey mentions Listamatic (thanks, Kasey for the great links), and there are 2 examples there that do dynamic menus using CSS only: There's the Pop open List and the Pure CSS Hover List. In both cases, hover over Item One to see the effect.

You can do it pretty simply in PHP. Don't know if you want to get involved in programming like that, but it's an option.

Thanks for deciding to show us your human faces here. We always knew we were talking to great people, and now we can picture you all as we listen to your help and advice. Guess I'll have to re-think my own avatar now. Fabulous news, and thanks to Bill and all of the TCH crew, even those who are way too busy to hang out here, for every thing you do for this family. I can't believe how lucky it was that TCH came along just when we needed it. How can anyone still wonder why Rock Sign ?

I originally got mine from Register.com. Now all transferred to TCH, though.

Andrew and Casie, Congratulations! Nathan, welcome to the World! All the best to you all, as you embark on the greatest adventure. :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart Jim

Actually, you're right. It didn't have anything to do with the absolute/relative thing. It was Ty's observation that it was something in base_style that was causing it. I guess it just occurred to me that something in the style sheet was getting in front of the links, since they were obviously there and correct. Who knows how hunches work? Certainly not I. Probably Magic. Anyway... Nice work.

Hi Shussat. A couple of things I see. The item id="left" has an actual width (165px), but the item id="singlecol", which I think is your main content, has a left-margin of 22%. When the window is small, the left block intrudes into the singlecol block, pushing the block down. You seem to have right commented out, so I'm not sure what you're seeing there. You can certainly move the pencil into the singlecol block. If you put it in as an image it will push the text down, or you can have it behind the text, as background. Hope this helps, or at least doesn't hurt. Jim

Hi Kasey. You may have already gone way past this, but I had a hunch, thanks to Ty's observation earlier. If you add a z-index to the #navigation rule: it suddenly works in the Gecko browsers. Firefox and Opera for me. I guess the block must have fallen behind somehow. Anyway, the Breakfast Menu looks great. Nice work. Thumbs Up Jim

Not actually a tangent, I think. The best reference I've come across is "Designing with WebStandards" by Jeffrey Zeldman. A very readable and informative book about the whole subject. You can find out more on his site. Best of luck in your studies. A worthy endeavor.

Hi Kasey. One thing you might try - about the IE choppiness thing. I have read that IE chokes on the at the beginning of the file. Maybe that's causing a problem? They say other browsers aren't affected if you leave it out until IE catches up (as if). I see the indent problem in Firefox. I'll let you know if I have any good (or bad) ideas about it.

I'm going to guess that it has to do with these 2 rules: It looks as if when the top paragraph is 'current', the standard 8px margin becomes a 0px margin, so everything jumps up. Why doesn't it happen with the lower paragraphs? Probably has something to do with the fact that margins of vertically aligned blocks are (what's the word?) merged. So what's really happening is not that the first paragraph is jumping up, but that the succeeding paragraphs are not jumping down. I'd try playing with the margin values and see what happens. Hope this helps. Or at least doesn't hurt. Jim

I'm seeing your favicon fine in Firefox. Does IE even display them at all? I've never seen one on mine.

Thanks, Kasey. You're extremely kind. I'm just happy to be able to add a little something to this wonderful family.

Here goes. My old familiar M$, and the world's newbiest Linux (with the manual of course).

Sad indeed. It gave many of us much assistance. :Nerd:

Hi again. I found this article at The Nemesis Project site. I haven't read through it, but the description suggests that it may address your problem. And on and on and ... Jim

It is a puzzlement, I agree, if either side may become the longer one. You're not missing anything obvious that I know of. But I'm certainly no CSS expert. Maybe the 'Faux Columns' trick would work for you. Check it out at A List Apart. I'll keep looking around, and let you know if I see other good ideas. I know there's a lot of example code out there. It's a big game of Where Did I See That Before? Jim

Hi BG. This is one I think I can address. Try this (in a general kind of way): Make your primary DIV (call it MAIN) the one that holds your content, with the darker background. Inside MAIN, nest a DIV (say, CONTENT) that actually holds the content, and float it or position it absolutely to take it out of the flow. Also inside MAIN, nest your 'other weblogs' DIV (say, OTHERS), giving it a margin-left that leaves as much space as you want for your content. Voila! MAIN will grow along with OTHERS, no matter how much stuff is in CONTENT. Clear as mud? If it's not, keep asking and I'll try to clarify.

What about using the old Box Model Hack to specify a height for IE and then cancel it for everybody else? ... { height:NNNpx; voice-family: "\"}\""; voice-family:inherit; height:auto; } Just a thought ...

Hi Kasey. CSS Master - NOT! I'm learning it too, but this scenario is one I've encountered before and used on a couple of my own sites. Now - your questions. Both the 'voice family' stuff and the 'html>body' are parts of what's called the "Box Model Hack", created to get around the fact that IE/WIN gets things wrong. Here's a link to the explanation by the creator of the hack (a Microsoft engineer, by the way). Basically, the "voice-family" entry with all the quotes and braces tricks IE into thinking the rule is over, and it stops parsing. So you put a bogus width before it for IE, and a real width after it for (most) everybody else. The html>body thing is because Opera gets tricked by the hack too, but doesn't get the box model wrong. So the extra rule (which IE ignores because it doesn't understand it) gets Opera back on track. Confused? Not surprised. I'm only now beginning to get it, largely because of: I've just finished reading Jeffrey Zeldman's book "Designing with Web Standards". Not only does he give a step-by-step explanation of how to make a site compliant with the standards, and accessible to all, but he also give a very clear beginner's guide to CSS, including a great explanation of the box model hack. And it's fun to read. Highly recommended. Anyway. As I said before, thanks for the opportunity to play with your page; I learned a lot from it. Now I'm going to have to go and read the article that TCH-Glenn posted and see how someone else does it. Cheers Jim