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Hi Kasey. It's late, and I know this will be an incomplete answer, but I'll give it a start. You can get the menu to extend the length of the page by putting the Content div inside the Menu div. Basically you make the entire page be Menu div, and cover the right n% of it with the Content div. Give the Content div a Left Margin large enough to clear the Menu stuff. As long as neither div is floated or absolutely positioned, the Content div will force the Menu div to grow along with it. <div id="menu"> Menu Stuff <div id="content"> Content Stuff </div> </div> I checked it quickly with your code, and it does the trick of getting the plaid to go all the way. I didn't delve into the css adjustments necessary to cover the plaid for the rest of the page, or contain the content to the right of the menu. EDIT: Good morning. I had some more time to play with it this morning (with your kind permission), and I have something that works in IE6/WIN, Firefox and Opera7. I've not tested it in other browsers/OSs. The basic scheme is: - Make your outer div the Menu div - Inside that, -- Make a separate div for the actual Menu stuff, and Float it or Absolute Position it to take it out of the normal flow. -- Nest your Content div, giving it a margin-left that clears the Menu stuff -- Put the Border on the left of the Content div instead of on the right of the Menu div. -- Inside the Content div, --- Make a separate div to contain the actual Content stuff, so you can shape it as you want. I have put up my altered version Here for you to see. I do hope this helps. Thanks for the opportunity. I learned a lot by playing with it. Unfortunately I will be out until this evening, so if you have questions or ... I'll have to get them then. Have a great day Jim

Hi ace. The're abbreviations: HKLM = HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE HKCU = HKEY_CURRENT_USER Hope that helps Jim

Getting the boxes to line up horizontally is a matter of using columns in the same table, rather than separate tables. I've rearranged your code a bit: As TCH-Glenn says, getting links in one column to open different content in another column is a more involved procedure. Perhaps an HTML tutorial would be able to help in a general way. W3Schools is a place to start. There's a ton of useful information there.

This may not be sufficient for your needs, but there is a way to give your client access to their AWStats (the ones that are already there) with PW protection and without cPanel access. TCH Help Site Statistics page I've used it on my clients' sites, and it works very well.

Me too! I've never used IM. Could we maybe PM?

At least the error is telling you that the script is being executed. Try putting at the top of the linked file. Or simply change the if() statement to read if(document.all)

What if you took the code out of the function, and had it 'loose' in the .js file. Would it then be evaluated when the file is loaded?

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Perhaps your DOCTYPE is screwing Mozilla up. In your page it's with a 'local' URL for validation. I think it should be Maybe Mozilla is failing to see it as valid XHTML 1.0, and rendering it in some quirks mode. I'm no expert. I just happen to be reading about this at the moment. Hope this doesn't make it worse Jim

Good morning, Tracy. Here's what seems to be hanging IE up: IE seems to honor your TD width, even though it's the only TD and it's less than the TABLE width. So it wraps your images to fit in the column. I'm guessing that Mozilla and Opera just override the column width to fill out the stated table width. Hope this helps Jim

Hey, Bill. Thanks for the reminder. I'm happy to give TCH a great review (just validated), but I forget that they only remain current for a month or so. As always, I'm blown away by the lengths to which you go on our behalf. I do agree, however, that you should sleep occasionally. Remember what they say on airplanes: "Put your own oxygen mask on first, before helping others." For all you do, this thanks is for you. Rock Sign

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Fair comment. Thanks. I'll see if the client agrees.

If using Javascript is a 'cheats way', what do you suggest as a better way? I know I could put a specific link to the previous page, but that would take the user back to the top of the page. By using a back link I send them back to the previous page at the place they left from.

I'm having a similar problem with Mozilla Firebird. Slightly different. My detail page has a 'back' link (I've used both methods detailed above), and it works fine the first time. One click. If I go again to a detail page, either the same or a different one, the 'back' link fails, and continues to fail until I exit and restart the browser. I'm thinking this may be a bug in Firebird, but I thought I'd see if anybody has a better idea. Thanks in advance for any thoughts. Jim

For regular browsing I keep it maximized. But I do squeeze it down for testing, to make sure my pages display properly in 800x600.

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I'm using Mozilla Firebird on Win98. Both links look exactly the same.

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First, let me say that I'm only beginning to try layout without tables. Like surefire, I find it intriguing, and not always possible (yet). That said, my take on css vs tables is that if you want to apply a new design to your site, with tables you basically have to start over and re-write every piece of code. One hopes that with css and intelligent site structure, new design can be applied without having to re-code everything. Just as an example of what can be done with css, take a look at The Zen Garden. Their deal is that designers take the same html and apply different css to it. I find it amazing and inspirational.

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