Madmanmcp

Thats a very broad statement and also not true. If the statement were true than Windows would not be where it is today. Windows works, it works with the majority of computers, the majority of peripherials, and the majority of software programs. Thats why people use it and thats why its on top. There are bugs in the program or holes. They are in all programs and some "people" are using these holes to commit illegal acts. They are either writing programs to cause damage to computers or they are writing them to get you to buy some product or steal your money. The bottom line is money. Early on in the PC world it was requested by the "users" to make things easier. These users were the Tech support folks who Beta tested and had to support the program back at the job. They had hundreds and thousands of potential other computer users that were going to need to use the computers at their desk to do a job. The cost of setting this up increased the longer it took for something to work. So MS made things easy based on customers request, plug it in and it should play. But in making it easy they also made it easy for the bad guys to also make it work the way THEY wanted. Now with all the hijackings and Virus's and Trojans out there, people are looking for blame, who's responsible. MS knew what it was doing so its their fault. I don't agree with this logic. Criminals will find ways to reach their goal and will use whatever works. These holes work for them and they are everywhere and they produce big results. Lets attack this problem on three fronts. MS needs to tighten up the holes, the Government needs to prosecute the criminals who are exploiting these holes, and the Business community should not reward the virus writers with high paying security jobs and speaking fees or book deals. If there is no profit they will move elsewhere.

You change the topic so I guess I need to change my answer. I use Windows cause its there...its EVERYWHERE. I go to work, its on my computer. I go home its on my computer. I go to friends, its on their computer. I use Windows cause it works with little intervention. I buy a computer, I plug it into the wall...it works. I load software and it works. I install a new device, it works. I use windows cause thats what feeds my family (I'm a tech of course), if I stop using it I lose my edge and won't know how to fix a problem and after a while will lose my job to others who know Windows better than me. The top two listed are probably the answer for most people. Its everywhere and it works, but its not perfect. People don't want to spend time to learn how something works (or doesn't) on a computer. They don't want to spends hours researching the boards to find out how to get their new USB device to store and play music. Generally these things work on Windows because the companies who make the devices make them to work on Windows because its EVERYWHERE. They put most of their efforts into making it work on Windows and not as much in other OS's. On a side note on a remark in that article, I had read about the uproar about all the ipods on MS campus and thought it funny. But I am also reading alot of bad things about the ipods. They are not working as well as they should. The returns at stores are mounting and the cries for help in the forums is also. Stay tuned.

"The sky is falling, the sky is falling!"

Well if the one site is correct and it is spreading via IRC you can start blocking ports commonly used by IRC and see if this slows or stops its traffic. Lets see now. port 23 and 1088 are used as is 113 for identd. you also log into port 6667, 6668 or 6669 I believe. Start locking those ports down on firewalls or each individual computer and see if thats the ticket.

Welcome Bruce, I have been using the UrbanLegends site for years. I had to debunk more hoax's and well intended friends and co-workers than I can count and pointing them to a site like this helps. The dead giveaway was the statement about "forward to all".

Being alert to your surroundings is always good advice. BUT, this line about forwarding is what is used by all "hoax's" to help it propogate around the world. see the following URL http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_c..._cell_phone.htm

see if this finds anything h_tp://www.radio-locator.com/

No laughter coming from here, I agree and never laugh at a "resource". The Training Manuals by MS for MCSE certification were way out there in the reading/understanding area. I used Exam-Cram plus the Dummy series to help pass the exams.

I was leading you down the easy path and letting the DHCP on the router assign all the IP's as needed. This router also has a nice feature where it keeps a table of the commonly used MAC addresses and will reassign the same IP each time you login. I believe there was a 16 port router at that site, you could get it instead and forget about the additional hub. Now if you want to take the complex and possibly cheaper route you could go with just hubs instead of the router. The problems with this is it more difficult to administer, you need to manually configure cards and assign IP's to each card. The router with DCHP is more plug'n'pray and a lot easier.

Is that 8+1 = 9 connected computers? If so you will need to add a hub to the router I suggested to get them all connected. The router was only an 8 port. But this will be no problem, you connect the hub to the router along with the other 7 computers, and connect the 2 other computers to the hub. I haven't mentioned the other "parts" necessary for your network. Do all the computers have ethernet cards installed and working? Do you know the cable lengths for the CAT5E cable you will need to purchase? With a "closed" environment (no access to the outside LAN or Internet), security will not be a big issue.

This should work, just don't connect the internet and you will be good to go. http://www.linksys.com/products/product.as...cid=29&prid=604

If they are all win2000 you would need a router or a hub.

Well if you are new to networking then you may have bitten off more than you can chew. There are lots of factors to take into account when setting up a network and you have given very little information in your post. Is this a simple or complex network, file and print sharing can be simple ... or complex. Do you need to share these files at the same time, will mutiple people be updating these at the same time, if so you are talking complex. What security did you have planned? are there multiple users sahring the same computer or are they dedicated computers to each user? Did you want wired connections or wireless? These are just a few questions, there are lots more that need to be answered before you can get started.

Not sure what site you were working on, alls I see is an empty directory with the single "postinfo.html" file. I do see a "catalog" folder which contains your Zen Cart install. But the index.htm files or any other files are missing. Did you load any of these to your site?

Not exactly sure what you are seeing and will need more information. What are you using to "open" My Computer/Documents and Settings? Is it Windows Explorer or a program? Can you give us step by steps of what you do to get there. Can you give us a screen capture of the popup so we can see what you are seeing?

These are mostly the many worms that have been written lately and have infected your "neighbors" on your ISP. Your firewall is doing its job so I would just ignore them.

You might need to read this thread. If you are forwarding to AOL from TCH. http://www.totalchoicehosting.com/forums/i...ndpost&p=108151

seems like server1 has a problem at rackspace again traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 198.202.76.58 @ hme0 traceroute to 69.20.61.172 (69.20.61.172), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 thing-i.sdsc.edu (198.202.76.40) 1.374 ms 1.267 ms 1.268 ms 2 thunder.sdsc.edu (198.202.75.5) 0.492 ms 0.551 ms 1.164 ms 3 piranha.sdsc.edu (132.249.30.8) 0.858 ms 1.960 ms 1.677 ms 4 inet-lax-isp--sdsc-sdsc2-ge.cenic.net (137.164.24.205) 4.708 ms 4.934 ms 3.892 ms 5 63.145.160.157 (63.145.160.157) 3.930 ms 5.006 ms 4.475 ms 6 205.171.13.173 (205.171.13.173) 4.313 ms 4.801 ms 5.389 ms 7 205.171.205.26 (205.171.205.26) 46.002 ms 36.537 ms 37.642 ms 8 205.171.31.42 (205.171.31.42) 36.366 ms 37.245 ms 37.140 ms 9 205.171.8.146 (205.171.8.146) 56.607 ms 56.639 ms 56.816 ms 10 205.171.21.150 (205.171.21.150) 55.755 ms 56.624 ms 56.800 ms 11 205.171.8.154 (205.171.8.154) 72.002 ms 71.701 ms 71.443 ms 12 205.171.8.222 (205.171.8.222) 72.161 ms 72.146 ms 72.129 ms 13 205.171.251.42 (205.171.251.42) 71.947 ms 72.041 ms 71.910 ms 14 67.133.246.158 (67.133.246.158) 157.118 ms 317.477 ms 233.781 ms 15 vlan901.core1.iad1.rackspace.com (69.20.1.10) 83.491 ms 73.147 ms 75.340 ms 16 aggr2a.iad1.rackspace.com (69.20.2.7) 73.352 ms 526.969 ms 90.946 ms 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * 1 10.1.9.2 (10.1.9.2) 0.490 ms 0.490 ms 0.498 ms 2 66.132.255.21 (66.132.255.21) 0.425 ms 0.389 ms 0.386 ms 3 miamfl6lce2-gige7-0-0.wcg.net (64.200.118.241) 0.988 ms 0.853 ms 0.894 ms 4 miamfl2wcx3-pos4-0.wcg.net (64.200.119.105) 0.979 ms 0.868 ms 0.959 ms 5 drvlga1wcx1-pos5-0-oc48.wcg.net (64.200.240.18) 14.228 ms 14.249 ms 14.135 ms 6 drvlga1wcx2-oc48.wcg.net (64.200.127.50) 14.295 ms 14.211 ms 14.386 ms 7 hrndva1wcx3-pos14-0-oc192.wcg.net (64.200.210.238) 209.487 ms 220.105 ms 215.383 ms 8 hrndva1wcx1-pos9-0-oc48.wcg.net (64.200.89.125) 25.235 ms 25.222 ms 25.122 ms 9 hrndva1wcx1-rackspace-gige.wcg.net (64.200.88.50) 25.383 ms 25.381 ms 25.290 ms 10 vlan901.core1.iad1.rackspace.com (69.20.1.10) 29.357 ms 29.430 ms 29.573 ms 11 aggr2a.iad1.rackspace.com (69.20.2.7) 29.795 ms 29.754 ms 29.666 ms 12 * * * 13 * *

I ran 2 traceroutes to the sql server, one from Fla and one from Cal and they stop at the same point. traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 198.202.76.52 @ hme0 traceroute to 72.9.230.178 (72.9.230.178), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 thing-i.sdsc.edu (198.202.76.40) 0.624 ms 0.361 ms 0.363 ms 2 thunder.sdsc.edu (198.202.75.5) 1.488 ms 0.726 ms 1.508 ms 3 piranha.sdsc.edu (132.249.30.8) 1.743 ms 0.621 ms 0.624 ms 4 sdg-dc1--sdsc-sdsc2-ge.cenic.net (137.164.24.157) 5.630 ms 5.045 ms 5.163 ms 5 lax-dc1-sdg-dc1-pos.cenic.net (137.164.22.46) 7.679 ms 7.573 ms 8.149 ms 6 xo--lax-px1-ge.cenic.net (198.32.251.74) 8.010 ms 8.007 ms 5.599 ms 7 p4-0-0.RAR2.LA-CA.us.xo.net (65.106.5.49) 5.382 ms 3.868 ms 3.832 ms 8 p6-0-0.RAR1.Dallas-TX.us.xo.net (65.106.0.13) 35.859 ms 36.084 ms 37.117 ms 9 p0-0-0d0.RAR2.Dallas-TX.us.xo.net (65.106.1.38) 37.321 ms 37.038 ms 37.510 ms 10 p6-0-0.RAR1.Atlanta-GA.us.xo.net (65.106.0.9) 55.404 ms 56.072 ms 56.726 ms 11 p4-0-0.MAR1.Smyrna-GA.us.xo.net (65.106.4.14) 56.654 ms 62.475 ms 62.726 ms 12 ge5-0.CHR1.Atlanta2-GA.us.xo.net (64.1.5.3) 69.908 ms 68.245 ms 66.885 ms 13 206.181.187.110 (206.181.187.110) 68.882 ms 57.074 ms 56.537 ms 14 209.51.137.34 (209.51.137.34) 57.586 ms 57.555 ms 57.996 ms 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 1 10.1.9.2 (10.1.9.2) 1.692 ms 0.563 ms 0.418 ms 2 66.132.255.17 (66.132.255.17) 0.474 ms 0.387 ms 0.403 ms 3 66.234.14.42 (66.234.14.42) 0.457 ms 0.510 ms 0.465 ms 4 miamfl6lce2-gige7-0-0.wcg.net (64.200.118.241) 0.932 ms 0.923 ms 0.864 ms 5 miamfl2wcx3-pos4-0.wcg.net (64.200.119.105) 1.168 ms 1.195 ms 1.026 ms 6 drvlga1wcx1-pos5-0-oc48.wcg.net (64.200.240.18) 14.217 ms 14.242 ms 14.304 ms 7 atlnga6lce1-pos2-2.wcg.net (64.200.127.118) 14.922 ms 14.806 ms 14.881 ms 8 208.173.58.129 (208.173.58.129) 15.062 ms 14.997 ms 15.008 ms 9 bpr2-as0-0.AtlantaPaix.savvis.net (208.173.59.34) 15.073 ms 15.021 ms bpr2-ge-6-3-0.AtlantaPaix.savvis.net (208.173.59.86) 15.046 ms 10 208.173.60.218 (208.173.60.218) 26.433 ms 26.249 ms 26.138 ms 11 209.51.131.25 (209.51.131.25) 26.745 ms 26.711 ms 26.507 ms 12 209.51.137.34 (209.51.137.34) 40.012 ms 26.919 ms 26.906 ms 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 *

Hi Mecca, from what I can see there is a possible problem with the "NS2" nameserver and this would explain why it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. When the request uses NS1 it works, when NS1 is busy and the NS2 is used you get the problem. I ran traceroutes and on the trace to NS2 it hung up trying to get to the last hop, which would be the NS2 server from looking at the successful traceroute. So talk with your hosting company and sho them the traces that fail on THEIR nameserver, they are the ones that need to fix the problem. Here are the traces: Results: NS1.MONVALLEYLIVE.COM => 66.225.217.10 Results: NS2.MONVALLEYLIVE.COM => 69.61.9.75 Results: www.MONVALLEYLIVE.COM => 205.234.139.36 traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 198.202.76.52 @ hme0 traceroute to 69.61.9.75 (69.61.9.75), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 thing-i.sdsc.edu (198.202.76.40) 1.169 ms 0.402 ms 0.999 ms 2 thunder.sdsc.edu (198.202.75.5) 1.495 ms 0.782 ms 1.044 ms 3 piranha.sdsc.edu (132.249.30.8) 1.877 ms 1.760 ms 0.961 ms 4 sdg-dc1--sdsc-sdsc2-ge.cenic.net (137.164.24.157) 2.608 ms 1.751 ms 0.988 ms 5 lax-dc1-sdg-dc1-pos.cenic.net (137.164.22.46) 3.469 ms 3.399 ms 3.837 ms 6 dc-sac-dc1--lax-dc1-pos.cenic.net (137.164.22.127) 13.019 ms 13.053 ms 13.595 ms 7 dc-oak-dc2--csac-dc1-ge.cenic.net (137.164.22.110) 15.200 ms 14.700 ms 14.647 ms 8 dc-oak-dc1--oak-dc2-p2p-1.cenic.net (137.164.22.192) 14.944 ms 14.839 ms 15.054 ms 9 dc-paix-px1--oak-dc1-ge.cenic.net (137.164.40.11) 17.115 ms 15.866 ms 16.985 ms 10 webusenet.needs.to.reg.ptr.info.with.paix (198.32.176.164) 16.622 ms 15.927 ms 16.353 ms 11 ve701.sjc-b1-01.wvfiber.net (63.223.0.189) 17.877 ms 16.420 ms 17.674 ms 12 gbe1-25-5.sjc-b0-00.wvfiber.net (63.223.1.146) 19.853 ms 18.513 ms 17.312 ms 13 pos1-36-1.lax-b0-00.wvfiber.net (63.223.0.178) 17.288 ms 15.362 ms 15.357 ms 14 63.223.0.73 (63.223.0.73) 45.736 ms 46.307 ms 45.730 ms 15 63.223.0.69 (63.223.0.69) 64.810 ms 63.491 ms 63.863 ms 16 pos10-0.atl-e00.wvfiber.net (63.223.2.90) 63.027 ms 63.719 ms 63.085 ms 17 ge-cust-globalcompass-amm-b1-00.gw.ibis7.net (63.223.3.50) 63.514 ms 63.708 ms 63.707 ms 18 ge-1-atl1-cust1.globalcompass.com (66.154.95.221) 66.303 ms 65.580 ms 66.037 ms 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 198.202.76.52 @ hme0 traceroute to 205.234.139.36 (205.234.139.36), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 thing-i.sdsc.edu (198.202.76.40) 0.730 ms 0.416 ms 0.467 ms 2 thunder.sdsc.edu (198.202.75.5) 1.561 ms 0.772 ms 1.101 ms 3 piranha.sdsc.edu (132.249.30.8) 0.962 ms 0.733 ms 1.504 ms 4 sdg-dc1--sdsc-sdsc2-ge.cenic.net (137.164.24.157) 1.276 ms 1.542 ms 0.911 ms 5 lax-dc1-sdg-dc1-pos.cenic.net (137.164.22.46) 3.337 ms 3.410 ms 3.389 ms 6 dc-sac-dc1--lax-dc1-pos.cenic.net (137.164.22.127) 12.936 ms 12.749 ms 13.747 ms 7 dc-oak-dc2--csac-dc1-ge.cenic.net (137.164.22.110) 15.302 ms 14.655 ms 15.177 ms 8 dc-oak-dc1--oak-dc2-p2p-2.cenic.net (137.164.22.194) 14.760 ms 15.817 ms 14.863 ms 9 dc-paix-px1--oak-dc1-ge.cenic.net (137.164.40.11) 15.784 ms 16.674 ms 16.813 ms 10 ge-0-1-0-501.cr1.pao1.us.nlayer.net (69.22.153.29) 16.281 ms 17.602 ms 16.001 ms 11 0.ge-1-1-0.cr1.sfo1.us.nlayer.net (69.22.143.178) 16.987 ms 18.413 ms 17.225 ms 12 0.so-0-2-0.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net (69.22.142.77) 64.676 ms 64.934 ms 65.063 ms 13 ge0-0-1-101.j2.ord.scnet.net (64.202.110.73) 69.705 ms 69.892 ms 69.080 ms 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 198.202.76.52 @ hme0 traceroute to 66.225.217.10 (66.225.217.10), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 thing-i.sdsc.edu (198.202.76.40) 1.837 ms 0.406 ms 0.525 ms 2 thunder.sdsc.edu (198.202.75.5) 1.271 ms 1.454 ms 0.687 ms 3 piranha.sdsc.edu (132.249.30.8) 1.318 ms 1.879 ms 1.516 ms 4 sdg-dc1--sdsc-sdsc2-ge.cenic.net (137.164.24.157) 1.167 ms 1.522 ms 1.117 ms 5 lax-dc1-sdg-dc1-pos.cenic.net (137.164.22.46) 4.661 ms 4.088 ms 3.273 ms 6 dc-sac-dc1--lax-dc1-pos.cenic.net (137.164.22.127) 13.306 ms 13.500 ms 13.556 ms 7 dc-oak-dc2--csac-dc1-ge.cenic.net (137.164.22.110) 15.427 ms 14.703 ms 15.515 ms 8 dc-oak-dc1--oak-dc2-p2p-1.cenic.net (137.164.22.192) 14.879 ms 14.673 ms 14.688 ms 9 dc-paix-px1--oak-dc1-ge.cenic.net (137.164.40.11) 15.909 ms 17.701 ms 16.102 ms 10 ge-0-1-0-501.cr1.pao1.us.nlayer.net (69.22.153.29) 16.794 ms 17.041 ms 16.825 ms 11 0.ge-0-1-1.cr1.sfo1.us.nlayer.net (69.22.143.161) 16.996 ms 17.154 ms 17.187 ms 12 0.so-0-2-0.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net (69.22.142.77) 65.435 ms 64.945 ms 66.036 ms 13 ge0-0-1-101.j2.ord.scnet.net (64.202.110.73) 69.289 ms 69.182 ms 355.817 ms 14 ns1.servershost.net (66.225.217.10) 84.054 ms !X 70.176 ms !X 69.864 ms !X

A more in depth explanation. h_tp://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg04382.html

Thanks, the popup is a "feature"

Ok, I understand now This is a "feature" of ZA that allows you to allow or deny Internet Access for any program that attempts to do so. Once you answer this once for each program it does not return. So this should be an easy fix...just answer for all the possible program and the popups will stop. Nortons is a collection of programs and a firewall is just one of them. The updates you are seeing is for the Virus program and is part of the auto-update feature I mentioned. I think the popup is giving you the option to update now or later, so if you are busy and do not have the time to wait for the download you can skip it and do it later. I would suggest that you just explain these to mom and dad and tell to just accept them all the time. Once completed the popup will go away.

Thomas, first of all Antivirus and a Firewall will not stop the popups, you need to either purchase a popup blocker or get the updates for IE which block them...or use a different browser The only sure way to protect them from the Internet is to disconnect them from the Internet. Most Antivirus programs now have auto-update features that will check to see if updates are available and automatically download if there are. I don't use AVG so can't say if that one does or not, but McAfee and Nortons do this. As for updates to a Firewall...a firewall is a firewall and does not need "updates" like another program, there could be a software update but there is no auto-download feature. I would suggest you add two or more additional programs, a Spyware program like Spybot and a Ad blocker like Adaware.

For a previous discussion on this issue with some suggested alternatives see this thread. http://www.totalchoicehosting.com/forums/i...indpost&p=90443