jme574 Posted October 23, 2004 Posted October 23, 2004 I have a website and have heard people talk about backing up their website on cd. Can anyone explain exactly how this is done? The servers and backup servers at prodj.com and their webadmin program and hosting services went down and now they have lost EVERYTHING all the way back to April. That is kind of scary to know that in a blink of an eye everything could be lost. So if anyone could let me know how to make a back (cd) copy of my website or someone else said ghost my hd, that whould be great info for me to know. Thanks in Advance. Quote
jandafields Posted October 23, 2004 Posted October 23, 2004 Goto cpanel, choose backup, choose Generate/Download a Full Backup, push generate backup then FTP the backup file to your own computer when its done. Quote
Head Guru Posted October 23, 2004 Posted October 23, 2004 TCH does maintain 2 sets of backups. One set is a local set that is placed daily on a second hard drive located within the server. The second set is done weekly and is maintained off site. This means the data is transfered to another server in another DataCenter. So we always should have a backup ready to go at a moments notice. HOWEVER, with that said. ALWAYS MAINTAIN YOUR OWN BACKUPS. Bill Quote
jme574 Posted October 23, 2004 Author Posted October 23, 2004 Thank you for such a fast reply! I am totally confiadent with total choice hosting and their backup ability. I just had a problem where i got a virus or something and everytime my computer booted up, it locked up on me so i wasn't able to run a virus scan or anything. Then on Sunday the company that hosts my Client data manager with all my cleint information and event info crashed and even though they said the had backup protection (RAID) the still had to drive to Chicago to deleiver their servers to a data recovey company. Needless to say everything after April 1st was lost. I lost 6 months of client info. I guess it was partily my fault for not having my own backup protection, but i won't make that mistake twice. thanks again Quote
jme574 Posted October 23, 2004 Author Posted October 23, 2004 ok this might seem like a stupid question - i created the full backup, it is in my file manager. i used smart ftp and downloaded the zipped backup file to my documents folder - and i am currently burning it to cd rom. Here is my question. IF i every lose my website (the files and stuff i used to create my website) how do i use this cd to reinstall me website at a later time? Quote
jandafields Posted October 23, 2004 Posted October 23, 2004 Goto CPanel Choose Backup On the right side, choose Browse under Restore a Home Backup and find the file on your computer and push Upload. Or, unzip the backup file, and FTP them up. Edit: That's just for a HOME restore, as I now see. I don't see an option for FULL RESTORE (which would also include email accounts, databases, symlinks, filters, forwarders, cron jobs, etc)... Quote
TCH-Don Posted October 23, 2004 Posted October 23, 2004 (edited) Just download the home backup and everything below, databases, e-mail filters and alias. The homebackup has all your files and e-mail. Then if you need to you can upload the homebackup and the rest to restore your site. I do this often. The contents of our sites and backups are our responsibility. And this makes it easy. Edited October 23, 2004 by TCH-Don Quote
jme574 Posted October 23, 2004 Author Posted October 23, 2004 so actually - i wouldn't even need a cd backup? I could just go to my control panel/device manager and install the backup - or go to the backup link and click restore? Quote
TCH-Don Posted October 23, 2004 Posted October 23, 2004 (edited) Yes, what you are doing is to download to your computer compressed files that are the backup. (homebackup, databases, e-mail filters and alias.) Then if needed you can upload back from your computer to cpanel > backup nothing to install. I keep a folder named cpanel backups for each domain and keep them in there. And copy to second drive, but if you want you can copy the files to a CD. Edited October 23, 2004 by TCH-Don Quote
jme574 Posted October 23, 2004 Author Posted October 23, 2004 Thanks again for all your help - learning alot tonight - but one last question. Is there a way to put my website on a cd so i can show it to someone using my laptop when i don't have an internet connection available? Quote
TCH-Bruce Posted October 23, 2004 Posted October 23, 2004 Yes you can do that by publishing your site to a folder on your won hard drive and then burning that to a CD. However if you are using anything that requires server side programs like MySQL, Perl or othe cgi it will not completely work. Has to be basically straight HTML and image files. Quote
youneverknow Posted October 23, 2004 Posted October 23, 2004 so actually - i wouldn't even need a cd backup? I could just go to my control panel/device manager and install the backup - or go to the backup link and click restore? But what if YOUR hard dive failed....that is why you would want a CD. YouNeverKnow Quote
TCH-Rob Posted October 23, 2004 Posted October 23, 2004 But what if YOUR hard dive failed....that is why you would want a CD. Thats right, because............ YouNeverKnow Quote
sandypc Posted February 7, 2005 Posted February 7, 2005 Yes, what you are doing is to download to your computer compressed files that are the backup. (homebackup, databases, e-mail filters and alias.) Then if needed you can upload back from your computer to cpanel > backup nothing to install. I keep a folder named cpanel backups for each domain and keep them in there. And copy to second drive, but if you want you can copy the files to a CD. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is a great option in the cpanel. I'm in the process of understanding it better. Today, for instance, I attempted to "upload the homebackup and the rest to restore my site", as you indicated. A list of files appeared with the message Restoring Files. However, nothing else happened. Finally, through the forum for server 35, Andy told me to submit a ticket and he restored my site using the backup gz file that I had uploaded via ftp. My question is: Will I be able to restore it myself in the future, or will I have to submit a "ticket"? I'm thinking maybe I did something wrong or didn't wait long enough. Thanks, Sandy Quote
TCH-Don Posted February 7, 2005 Posted February 7, 2005 Sandy, there are two backups in cpanel > backup A full backup and the Home backup which you can later upload just to the right. The home backup does not have your databases or e-mail filters and alias But you can also download these just below in cpanel > backup and again upload them to the right So yes you can backup and restore your entire site any time you need to. Quote
jnull Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 When I've created a full backup. and have it downloaded... how do I delete that from Control Panel so that it is not using up storage space on my server? Quote
TCH-Bruce Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Use your FTP client or File Manager in cPanel to delete it. Quote
jnull Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 Much appreciation ... hadn't thought about either of those. Was looking only in the backup menu option to do it. Quote
TCH-Bruce Posted February 11, 2005 Posted February 11, 2005 NP, sometimes we always forget the simple things. Quote
rnmcd Posted February 17, 2005 Posted February 17, 2005 Just download the home backup and everything below, databases, e-mail filters and alias. The homebackup has all your files and e-mail. Then if you need to you can upload the homebackup and the rest to restore your site. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What does Don mean by "Just download the home backup and everything below, "? I see the cpanel backup option for "Download a home directory Backup" but I'm not sure what "everything below" is? How does "Download a home directory Backup" differ from "Full Backups"? Is "Full Backups" a combination of the Home Directory Backup and the mySQL Database backup? thanks! Quote
TCH-Bruce Posted February 17, 2005 Posted February 17, 2005 What does Don mean by "Just download the home backup and everything below, "? If you have any MySQL databases they will appear below the home backup as well as aliases and filters you have created. Download all of them. Quote
TCH-Don Posted February 17, 2005 Posted February 17, 2005 Yes the full backup has everything including databases and the rest. But after you upload it to your site, you will need to open a ticket to have the staff restore it. With the home backup there is place to upload it and the site is restored except as noted, your databases and e-mail alias (forwards) and e-mail filters. So you will also have to download the databases and e-mail alias and filters which you can also upload in their corresponding places. It is nice to be able to make a database backup before making changes to a forum or script and know that I can restore the database quickly. I generally download the home backup weekly unless I am making some radical changes. The files have the date as part of the file name, so you can keep several copies. databases I download every few days if there are additions to them. I do have all the files I create on my computer and copies of the folders for forums and guestbooks as well. I also copy my backups to CD monthly. I guess you could say I am paranoid Quote
daregal13 Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 I guess you could say I am paranoid <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes you are, I think we all are but in the digital world, being paranoid is just being in the safe side. Quote
ronaldp423 Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 I still am lost. I'm using Smart FTP, and would like to transfer everything to my computer at home. When in cpanel, I go into Backup I click on generate/download full backup. It then has a menu asking for me to pick the destination. Q: which do I pick? am I a remote server? or what? Q: how do I use the FTP to download to my computer, I'm new at this. Thanks Quote
Ayman Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 Select home dir, when the backup is generated, log in to your site using SmartFTP as usual, and download the backup file in your home dir.' Remote server option is for transferring the backup to another server, not your computer. Quote
mr_lucas Posted February 20, 2005 Posted February 20, 2005 ok i know you can back up the whole site, database, aliases and filters but how do you backup just subdomains " files and databases etc " all in one shot Quote
thehemi Posted February 22, 2005 Posted February 22, 2005 I work on all of my websites locally and FTP changed files. So I always have a latest version of my website handy! Quote
rnmcd Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 I used cpanel to backup my database... The "General Account Information" on the cpanel homepage says: SQL Disk usage 1.48 Megabytes But when I backed up my only MySQL Database the zipped (.gz) size was only 87 kb. I backed it up twice and it was the same size each time. It didn't compress it that much did it? Have I done something incorrectly? Quote
TCH-Don Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 unzip the database to a folder and you will see the true size. yes it can be compressed a lot, don't forget the may be a lot of spaces and blank lines as part of your data. Quote
rnmcd Posted March 3, 2005 Posted March 3, 2005 (edited) unzip the database to a folder and you will see the true size.yes it can be compressed a lot, don't forget the may be a lot of spaces and blank lines as part of your data. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I unzipped the .gz file but it asked me what the 'full name of the file' to be extracted is....I think it is looking for an extension. Any idea what they need? ...as you can see I am very unfamiliar with mySQL databases. Edited March 3, 2005 by rnmcd Quote
TCH-Don Posted March 3, 2005 Posted March 3, 2005 With my file manager I just double click on a zip to see the files inside. A small forum database of 278k zips up to 18k Quote
rnmcd Posted March 3, 2005 Posted March 3, 2005 With my file manager I just double click on a zip to see the files inside.A small forum database of 278k zips up to 18k <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When you double-click the zipped file, doesn't it try to unzip or associate with a program? Also, can an unzipped database be "opened"? Does it have anything that is 'viewable'? For example, if you opened your forum database would all of the posts be viewable? thanks. Quote
TCH-Don Posted March 3, 2005 Posted March 3, 2005 The compressed file contains a text file using the name of your database And after you uncompress it you can open it with any text editor. My file manager is totalcommander http://www.ghisler.com/ and I can go into a compressed file and select view to see the contents of the file or files inside. The database file does contain your posts, but it looks a litte strange if you have nevere looked at a database file. Quote
rnmcd Posted March 3, 2005 Posted March 3, 2005 The compressed file contains a text file using the name of your databaseAnd after you uncompress it you can open it with any text editor. My file manager is totalcommander http://www.ghisler.com/ and I can go into a compressed file and select view to see the contents of the file or files inside. The database file does contain your posts, but it looks a litte strange if you have nevere looked at a database file. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> any idea what I should use to open a database file that is combination of text and photos? Quote
TCH-Don Posted March 3, 2005 Posted March 3, 2005 The database is just text. As far as I know all guestbook, forums and such copy images to an image folder and the database will have a link to the image. So you can view or edit using any text editor. Quote
rnmcd Posted March 3, 2005 Posted March 3, 2005 The database is just text.As far as I know all guestbook, forums and such copy images to an image folder and the database will have a link to the image. So you can view or edit using any text editor. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Makes complete sense...even to me!!! Thanks again Don! Quote
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