Virtual Imager

That would be incredible! We'd all be dancing in the streets (or at our desks)! Rock Sign

I did find a clue... if i type the url with a forward slash at the end of it when I email the link, I get taken to the right page - the updated one. I don't know if this is a cache problem, an Outlook Express problem, an IE problem, a TCH problem or an ISP problem, but entering the forward slash in the URL seems to solve it.

Sounds similair to the problem I posted yesterday about not being able to see the grpahics on my index page when everyone else could.... but for me it was (and still is) only when I went there via a link in an email using Outlook Express. The link from my desktop, from the forum page, and even from an email to myself at hotmail all work. Have you tried going there from your posted link on this forum.... the one that is working for all the rest of us? If that works for you, then you and I are probably having the same problem and if you get it solved I'd like to know how. I'm completely stumped by it.

OK... this is getting really strange. Now I get a page that doesn't have graphics from either address (http://www.virtualconceptions.com and http://virtualconceptions.com) but ONLY when I try to get there from a link sent in an email using outlook express. I have a feeling this is only happening on my computer. Also, when I pull up my page in Netscape Composer (that's what I created it with), sometimes the graphics are there and sometimes they're not. Perhaps I'm not saving them correctly. Although I have it to set to save the images and associated files with the page, I don't think that's happening. My pages are in a folder called homepage and the images that I've inserted from other folders aren't being copied/saved to homepage (An earlier version of Netscape Composer always saved everything to homepage). The image properties shows that the images are there, but they're not displaying. Also, I'm a bit confused about when to check the box that says "URL is relative to Page Location" when I insert images and links. Anyone familiar with Netscape Composer? I wish I never updated it.... the older version of Composer seemed to run very smoothly. So, is the link from Outlook pulling up a page from my hard drive instead of from the internet? Does this only affect my computer? Can I fix it? Well while I was typing this I just saw Rickvz's post... I'll try the modem thing. But if it's a cache thing on my computer, what would that have to do with the modem? And why only when I link from Outlook Express as opposed to linking from the forum page or clicking on home? Never mind, I don't think I want to know! My brain hurts!

Yes, I know. Both index pages say that (I just realized this morning after I posted). But... one page has graphic images and a background on it and the other one doesn't. The one with the graphics is the correct page, but somehow the link from my email signature is sending me (and I presume others) to a different page that is missing the graphics and background. I still don't see how this is possible, but it's happening despite me deleting my temporary internet files, refreshing the page, etc.

Rob... where are you??? And where is your shop? Email me if you don't want to post it here. I'll be there tomorrow! I looked at your site via the Web Hosting Family Members Page just a few days ago. I have a little collection of knives and daggers myself. Left over from my Martial Arts days. I've got some big fighting knives (both Kenpo Knives), antique and modern daggers and hunting blades, and little pocket knives, but my favorites are the blades in the lipstick cases! I just have to be careful when I put lipstick on that I've pulled the right case out of my purse. Consequences could be disasterous! Well, obviously you got the page with the graphic... that's the only place the address would have showed up. I don't know why the email link is pulling up that other page. It's so frustrating. Randy

I've deleted all my temporary internet files (including offline content), and even rebooted after that, but I still get to the older page that doesn't have the graphics when I use the emailed link. I haven't fooled with the modem yet. My husband won't let me touch it!!! LOL. I'll have him do that when he gets off the golf course. Also... and this is my mistake.... the newer page DOES say 8/8 on it. The only difference between the two pages I'm getting is that the one from the email link doesn't have the background or the graphics. Is anyone else seeing that page??? Or is it just when the link is emailed? That wouldn't be possible, would it? Question: It took forever (well, a lot more than a few seconds anyway) to delete those files. I don't even know what that means and only did it because you guys said I should and YOU ROCK!!!! But the longer it took, the more I worried about whatever it was I was deleting/ Am I in deep doo-doo now? Thanks for your responses so far.... I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of this. Randy

And Getting Weirder! I noticed that the two links above take me to the same place (the 8/9 page). But the link from my email signature (which was http://virtualconceptions.com) is still giving me the older page whic is missing the graphics and may have some bad links. I feel really stupid... I spent days updating the site and then sent out an email with a link to an unfinished page!

This is really wierd: How is it possible that when I access my site from http://www.virtualconceptions.com I get one page (updated 8/9) and when I use http://virtualconceptions.com I get an earlier (unfinished) page from 8/8? What do I need to do to get rid of that earlier page?

Before you spend money on a program, remember that you can also create webpages using Word or Netscape Composer or other programs that you may already have on your computer. Start with a blank page. Add a background (usually click on 'format page' in the drop down menus. Then add text (just type as you would in any word processing program). Use "Insert" to add images. You can highlight any text or images and click "Insert link" to create hyperlinks to other sites or other pages on your own site. And Voila! You've got yourself a simple webpage. You'll learn by doing. I did... and I'm an artist too. Good luck.

Favor please.... when you find out what the problem is, could you post it here? I've received those messages as well and I'm sure others would be interested too. I think I eliminated the problem by setting my email program (Outlook Express) to NOT leave messages on the server once I download them to my own computer. But Don says he checked his account and there's nothing there. Odd.

Kudos to Bill and to TCH! Rock Sign

Log into Cpanel. In the box that says "Welcome ******" it will also "Welcome to Server##" -Randy

Thanks... Will do.

Thanks. No emergency. Hope you had fun on your too long weekend. All us forum freaks really need to get out more! Goof

Jim, I like your style! Not only is it not rubbish... it's also not jibberish. You Brits really know how to speak the language. Seriously, as a technically challenged "newbie," I appreciate the clear, concise instructions and the way you anticipate questions and answer them. I hope you'll address more help topics in the same way. I do have one (possibly stupid) question though.... if I have hotlinking protection turned on in Cpanel, how would I know if it were not working (Q&A #4)? Thank you.... Virtual Imager

Found a solution for myself that might help others who don't always check the forums or their outside email addresses: I subscribed to the topic "Server Issues." Now I'll be prompted (via my TCH email account) to check for any notices of anticipated downtime on my server before it happens. Thumbs Up -R

This truly is a family and I appreciate the support that always seems to be available and forthcoming. It is very comforting and reassuring to know that you guys are willing to give of your time to help us novices learn and grow. 1. My Webpage 2. Virtual Conceptions 3. Digital Fine Art on Paper, Silk, and Canvas. Images created from original photography by the artist. 4. Link to TotalChoice Hosting is at the bottom of my main (index) page. Rank Evaluation (please)

I know... that's why I suggested a CC email to the TCH hosted address in addition to the outside address... and only for prior notifications (i.e. before the server goes down for repairs).

Thanks cmuskett. That's a relief! You know, I rarely check that email address that TCH requires us to have outside of our own websites. I understand the need for it, especially when the server is down, but I can't help but think that owner@TCHhostedwebsite.com would be a more efficient way of notifying clients when information is being given prior to the event. Is there any way TCH might cc these notifications to a second email address? Just a thought... might save you guys from pesky calls for help (like mine!) Thanks again... you guys are awesome! Randy

Just checked my email and got the following message: "Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Account: 'virtualconceptions', Server: 'mail.virtualconceptions.com', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F" Figured I better check my site to see if the server is down... When I log onto my site (http://www.virtualconceptions.com) the following page appears: "Hey, it worked ! The SSL/TLS-aware Apache webserver was successfully installed on this website. If you can see this page, then the people who own this website have just installed the Apache Web server software and the Apache Interface to OpenSSL (mod_ssl) successfully. They now have to add content to this directory and replace this placeholder page, or else point the server at their real content. ATTENTION! If you are seeing this page instead of the site you expected, please contact the administrator of the site involved. (Try sending mail to <webmaster@domain>.) Although this site is running the Apache software it almost certainly has no other connection to the Apache Group, so please do not send mail about this site or its contents to the Apache authors. If you do, your message will be ignored. The Apache online documentation has been included with this distribution. Especially also read the mod_ssl User Manual carefully. Your are allowed to use the images below on your SSL-aware Apache Web server. Thanks for using Apache, mod_ssl and OpenSSL! " Who are these guys and what are they doing on my website? -Randy

Hang in there... You can do it! Thumbs Up

Interesting article in the New York Times this morning.... http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/20/technolo...pagewanted=1&th

I get the an email with the subject "Don't Delete this Message - Folder Internal Data" at least once a day. The message body says: This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. The Message Properties Details are as follows: Date: 12 May 2003 11:08:15 -0500 From: Mail System Internal Data Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA Message-ID: <1052755695@server24.totalchoicehosting.com> X-IMAP: 1052195919 0000000059 Status: RO What's up with this? Virtual Imager

I added the hotlink protection from the cPanel last night... but haven't yet created the graphic or put in a redirect url. I'm working on it. Actually I'm planning a redesign of the entire site, including breaking up those pages that have more than one theme. Most of them don't, but two or three do. I tried some new editing software and totally screwed everything up (images were not appearing, links were not working on some of the pages that I edited with the new software), so now I am just trying to get the site up and working again before I do any redesign work. Luckily I had a backup of those pages as they looked before I messed with them. So I'm back at Ground Zero in terms of the edits I was trying to make. Oh well, live and learn! A lot of the changes I want to make are beyond my capabilities at this point. As I said elsewhere on this forum, the learning curve is HUGE! I really appreciate your suggestions and your help. Thank you.