fire ashes Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 I'm not sure if my question was very clear in the topic, so erm.. basically i wanted to know if you can restrict the amount of space alotted to a subdomain. And if you can, how? I have a friend who i'm hosting and he has this 35meg video plus TONS of pictures...and he's taking up about as much space as i am on my server, and i'm not sure how to tell him to take some things off >< [because, I'M the one paying for it, you know? bleh. i sound stingy now] Quote
Lianna Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 Well, sounds like, from the limited info you've given us here, that the friend's site (subdomain) may be in violation of the AUP even with its recent revision. Because you are the one paying for it (the hosting package) YOU are the one at risk of suspension or termination. That's reason enough to tell him to get his own package! But to answer the question that you posed: No way to limit space constraints on a subdomain. I suggest you review the Terms of Service and Acceptable Use Policy for the hosting account here at TCH and make sure that you are not at risk...and if you are, that's the perfectly polite way to tell your buddy, "Sorry, dude. Ya gotta go." Whip Quote
fire ashes Posted June 28, 2003 Author Posted June 28, 2003 hm..thanks... it's not anything illegal though. the pictures and the media thing were all taken/made by him. yeah. '' Quote
TCH-Andy Posted June 28, 2003 Posted June 28, 2003 fire ashes, There was no suggestion that the pictures were illegal. However you state I have a friend who i'm hostingin a subdomain. Which is only allowable if you have a reseller account. If you read the Acceptable Use Policy you will see that it states You may not conduct hostee or offer free web hosting to people based on your subdomains. You may also note: If a TotalChoice Hosting account is used to violate the Acceptable Use Policy, we reserve the right to terminate or suspend your service .... I would suggest that you either upgrade to a reseller account, or remove the subdomain. Otherwise you do face suspension. Andy Quote
imadsurfer Posted June 28, 2003 Posted June 28, 2003 Ummm...I'm not trying to start trouble or anything, but I thought that THIS changed the way subdomains could be used. I'm just trying to get this straight in my head now, since I thought I had this all figured out.... ImaD Quote
TCH-Andy Posted June 28, 2003 Posted June 28, 2003 ImaD You are right in that the rules on subdomain were relaxed. It's a question for HG really, but my reading would be - you can use your subdomains for anything you like as long as you are doing it and it's legal. In the post that you like HG states "Your subdomains are allowed to be used for any legal purpose. You may not sell the subdomain space to others, nor may you point other domain names to your subfolders. Sub-domains may not be used to host other domains" To me that means when fire ashes states "i'm hosting" that it is against the rules. You could argue that he might not be taking any money for it, so therefor he is not selling it. If fire ashes were to control the domain and put some pictures on there, then he can decide what goes on, how much space it is taking up, and therefore not a problem. If he gives access to his friend to put whatever he likes on the subdomain, with no control over it himself, then I would consider that hosting, and against the rules. That's my 2c of interpretation anyway Andy Quote
imadsurfer Posted June 28, 2003 Posted June 28, 2003 Hmm....Please don't think I'm trying to argue here, because that is not my intent at all. But my perception would be this: Not Allowed: 1) You set up a sub-domain on mysite.com called "My Friend Ted's site" 2) Ted registers "My FriendTedsSite.com" 3) Ted points the DNS entry to MyFriendTedsSite.MySite.com The allowed case would be that you set up a sub-dom for your friend Ted, and let him run your bandwidth up costing you money! Head Bash Not the most intelligent thing, but not against the AUP.. Correct me if I'm wrong......just don't want to be guilty of abusing the AUP policy myself somewhere down the road... ImaD Quote
TCH-Andy Posted June 28, 2003 Posted June 28, 2003 ImaD, I don't think you are trying to argue at all, so don't worry on that count. We are between us just trying to clarify things Your view is just as valid as mine, I do not represent Total Choice Hosting in policy issues, so we are speaking as two members and users of the service here. I agree totally that pointing a DNS entry to a subdomain for MyFriendTed would be against the rules. The only area of possible confusion between us is the issue of use of a subdomain by a third party. The AUP states You may not conduct hostee or offer free web hosting to people based on your subdomains.My interpretation is that You set up a sub-dom for your friend Tedwould be against the above AUP statement because you are offering free web hosting based on a subdomain. My interpretation anyway :-) Andy Quote
imadsurfer Posted June 28, 2003 Posted June 28, 2003 I believe we may need to hear from HG on this one... Tap Tap Tap...is this thing on? ROOOOOOOOOOoooooo,........ Yep...it's on.... ImaD Quote
lardieb Posted June 28, 2003 Posted June 28, 2003 This is the same question that has been asked before here: http://www.totalchoicehosting.com/forums/i...=2585&hl=domain It would really be great if what can be put on 1 standard account could be spelled out by Head Guru. My questions for HG are: Can create a subdomain dad.family.net and let my dad but anything he wants on it? Same for mom.family.net, brother.family.net, etc... After reading these post I think it is OK as long and I am not charging for it. My site is not a profit site, just a family site that I want to let the members of my family post pictures and other things related to them. The figured the easiest way to do this was to create subdomains for those people that wanted to have a "site." Quote
curtis Posted June 28, 2003 Posted June 28, 2003 For what its worth,My understanding: I have an account mysite.com. I create the sub-domains sub1.mysite.com,sub2.mysite.com ect. Icontrol these subs by editing, uploading and upkeep of these subs thats OK. If I create sub1.mysite.com and let John control it by editing,uploading and so on and create sub2.mysite.com and let Sue control it that IS NOT acceptable. Its letting John and Sue host their sites as one of my sub-domains. curtis Quote
imadsurfer Posted June 28, 2003 Posted June 28, 2003 I was going by the following to reach my assumptions.....and that is indeed what they are at this point Let's assume again that somebody has mysite.com and they make a sub called myfriend "Your subdomains are allowed to be used for any legal purpose".What is illegal about letting a friend use myfriend.mysite.com ?"You may not sell the subdomain space to others" It's not being sold...just used by him... "nor may you point other domain names to your subfolders."He doesn't have myfriend.com pointed to a sub-domain. He doesn't even have a domain name."Sub-domains may not be used to host other domains" I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that a domain is something.com/org/biz/etc That isn't the case here..... Can anybody with the powers that be clear this up for me?! ImaD Quote
TCH-Rob Posted June 28, 2003 Posted June 28, 2003 imad, I think I need clarification too. Not that I am making use of any subdomains at the moment. To me "nor may you point other domain names to your subfolders."and "Sub-domains may not be used to host other domains" are one in the same. It reads to me that as long as you arent selling space and no other domain name is pointing to that subdomain you are 5 x 5 and shouldnt be in any violation. Quote
TCH-Rick Posted June 28, 2003 Posted June 28, 2003 TotalChoice Hosting provides storage space and access for web sites through its Web services. TotalChoice Hosting will not routinely monitor the contents of your web sites. This is the first part of the paragraph in the AUP under Web Sites. We are not out policing sites to try and find violators of the AUP but when questions are asked that approach or cross the line we do try to address them. This is always in the context of other parts of the AUP as well. We look at each case and try and determine if the situation is detrimental to the other users on the server. The red flag in the original question was in wanting some sort of external (i.e. server level) control of the space someone else is using in a subdomain. This is a feature easily controlled in a reseller account but not needed in a regular account. The account owner is responsible for everything in his or her site and is given a good amount of control over it. I see it as apples and oranges when making the comparisons of family members having subdomains and friends. If a friend is maintaining part of your site and that friend violates other parts of the AUP, the entire account is subject to suspension or termination. The person of record on the account is therefore responsible. So if that friend uploads mp3's and the RIAA comes looking, the whole site gets shut down. Domains are less than the cost of a movie ticket and popcorn. $44 a year for webhosting and all the bells and whistles we offer is a small price even for a site just for fun. Quote
leezard Posted June 28, 2003 Posted June 28, 2003 hmmm, i think i had better get some clarification on this to. my hardware review site has a subdomain for game reviews, I dont play many pc games so all of the reviews are done by a srtaff member...soooo he has access via ftp etc to that subdomain, i administer the subdomain, install scripts etc...but still he is the one actually maintaining content....am i breaking the rules?? Quote
fire ashes Posted July 2, 2003 Author Posted July 2, 2003 Wow, seems like i've started a controversy o_O Anyways, my impression of the whole thing was that as long as i'm in control of things, then it should be okay? I mean.. okay, so i'm letting my friend use a subdomain name. But i know what he's putting on it, because he told me what he wanted to put even before i made the subdomain, the things on his site have, in some way, to do with me anyways, and ultimately i still have the power to go in and delete things. My original question was really just asking for a nicer way to 'exert' my power over him basically shutup Quote
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