mike Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Hey folks. I loaded up Firefox because I noticed some of you really like it. I do too. But two things you may be able to steer me on: 1. My site has an amber alert ticker on it that works fine with ie6; but doesn't "tick" on firefox. It changes lines one at a time but does not scroll. 2. I click on tools / options and it quits and freezes up. can't click any category buttons to the left, can't close the options window. Then I have to ctrl / alt / del and end firefox that way and start over. ????? thanks. in advance Quote
boxturt Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 As worthwhile as Amber is , the code for their scroller just doesn't work well in any mozilla-based browsers. I had the same problem and ended up removing it. I didn't want to but it was really screwing up the sites. Quote
kevan_j Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 I've noticed some 'anomalies' too. Look at my site http://www.hanoveropen.com. The flash based menu on the left side has a transparent background image. Works fine in IE based browsers, but Netscape, Firefox, etc, the backgound behind the buttons is white. Anyone know why, and if it can be fixed? Quote
LisaJill Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 I'm not sure how to fix flash, unfortunately. There are a lot of non-DOM based scripts that are IE only and lots of code as well. Cross-browser testing has got to be the absolute pits of web design *sighs* Not sure why your firefox is crashing though. That shouldn't happen. Did you change themes or anything, by any chance? Install extensions? Quote
annie Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Quit using flash, and you should be fine. There are some of us who absolutely refuse to install flash on Mozilla based browsers, and others who can't because of policies instituted by colleges, workplaces etc. And those who don't install flash because they're on slow lines. If you want to use flash for menus, you should have a small line at the bottom with a text based menu, at the very least. Quote
TCH-Thomas Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 I've noticed some 'anomalies' too. Look at my site http://www.hanoveropen.com. The flash based menu on the left side has a transparent background image. Works fine in IE based browsers, but Netscape, Firefox, etc, the backgound behind the buttons is white. Anyone know why, and if it can be fixed? Have a look here. Quote
borfast Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 The transparent flash background only works with IE, since it uses one of it's many proprietary "toys". About the Amber ticker, it's probably using some non-standard DOM/JavaScript code, just like Lisa suggested. Not much to do about that, unless you want to recode it to be standards compliant and send it to the guys who created it Quote
mike Posted May 18, 2004 Author Posted May 18, 2004 Thanks to all of you. The only things I did was change my theme to walnut, and load the java and flash plugins. Guess it's just the way it is going to be. Funny how IE can seem to be the best and the worst (security holes) at the same time isn't it? Rock Sign Rock Sign Rock Sign Rock Sign Quote
mike Posted May 18, 2004 Author Posted May 18, 2004 just curious, TCH-RAUL, what browser do you use? I know you are more or less anti-microsoft, so I'd be interested in your browser choice. thanks. Quote
borfast Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 (edited) mike, I'm not anti-microsoft, I just hate their browser, their mail clients, their web servers, their operating system and their business model... Seriously, I think MS has some products that could be really good pieces of software but they have too much against them for me to use their products. Now, about my browser preferences... I use Mozilla Firefox at all times. I switched to Opera (both for web browsing and e-mail) a long long time ago, when I still used Windows, because I had enough of IE's and OE's stupid bugs and security holes and I wanted tabbed navigation - once I tried it, I could never go back to the traditional way of one-browser-window-per-website I wanted to switch to Mozilla because it was Open Source / Free Software but at the time, Mozilla was still pre-release quality and lacked the tabbed browsing feature. By the time Mozilla included tabbed browsing by default (there were some plugins to add tabbed browsing to Mozilla but I didn't like them), I switched to it both for web browsing and e-mail and I've been using Mozilla since then. I started using Firebird when it was pre-0.6 (because Mozilla was a bit heavy on system resources) and I still use it today - Firefox is the same as Firebird but the Mozilla foundation had to change it's name due to some problems with another product by another company. I do have IE6, Opera 7 and Konqueror 3.3 installed so I can test the websites I build and make sure they all work well on all these browsers - clients pay me for that, so I have to do it. But my personal website is built (or should I say, being built, since it's been "under construction" for more than I can remember ) with web standards. If my site visitors use IE, tough luck. They're automatically redirected to a page that warns them about the dangers of using IE and lets them know that I don't give a !"#$ about IE, so if something looks wrong, they should get a browser instead of a toy. Edited May 18, 2004 by TCH-Raul Quote
mike Posted May 18, 2004 Author Posted May 18, 2004 Raul.......... that was a great presentation. Thanks. I've been to the IE redirect and found it quite truthful indeed. I'm new to the tabbed thing but about to go diving into it. Thanks for the thoughts and info. Rock Sign Rock Sign Quote
annie Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 The neatest thing with the tabbed thing is this: ctrl-t Try it! Quote
mike Posted May 18, 2004 Author Posted May 18, 2004 I got it. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Quote
annie Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 You can put a short cut on the bar beneath the icons and address line. Just grab the favicon (see the address bar, where you find the TCH graphic) and drop it on the bar beneath there. It's also known as the Bookmarks Toolbar Folder (see bookmarks) Quote
mike Posted May 18, 2004 Author Posted May 18, 2004 however................ it still freezes up when I click TOOLS / OPTIONS and won't let me even close out the options window. Quote
annie Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 We can't replicate that, so that might be your computer specifically, or a botched install? format c:/s ?? Quote
TCH-Rob Posted May 18, 2004 Posted May 18, 2004 Kidding.... Oh. now you say that. Dang it! I just did that. Now I am on my wifes computer because mine is gone. Thats it! I have had it! I am leaving this place and I will let the door hit my I AM A SPAMMER on the way out! Quote
mike Posted May 18, 2004 Author Posted May 18, 2004 ok. tried that format c: /s what now???? It's all black! Quote
kevan_j Posted May 19, 2004 Posted May 19, 2004 Jikrantz, Thanks for the link. The entry in the EMBED tag worked!! Firefox now displays the transparent background correctly. Kevan Quote
borfast Posted May 19, 2004 Posted May 19, 2004 Humm... time for me to review my Flash knowledge... I could swear that only worked in IE... sorry for the misdirection above, guys. Quote
vfwlkr Posted May 19, 2004 Posted May 19, 2004 If things like flash/java/adobe/ dont work for you in firefox, head over to plugindoc http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/ Quote
borfast Posted May 19, 2004 Posted May 19, 2004 I know all those things work with Firefox. What I didn't know was that it is possible to make the background of a Flash animation to be transparent. I thought it was only possible with IE. Need to update myself Quote
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