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ed.meyer

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:D I have signed up - received my welcome message - tried to upload my current web page with FrontPage 2000 to:

http://66.11.163.212 and http://66.11.163.212/public_html/

 

FrontPage said that the FrontPage extensions were not there :o (I had already enabled them via cpanel) but, FP DID allow me to load to a ftp site so I put in:

ftp://66.11.163.212/public_html/ and the ftp seems to have uploaded okay.... But, I can't seem to open the web with FrontPage... B)

 

I've tried:

 

http://66.11.163.212 and

http://66.11.163.212/public_html/ and

http://server10.totalchoicehosting.com/~ed.meyer/ all with no luck....

 

Error message from FP says

 

The folder ... isn't accessible. The folder may be located on an unavailable volume or protected with a password...

(It never gives me a chance to enter a password... :D )

 

Anyway, my domain change has not propagated yet and maybe this problem goes away when it does propagate, but it doesn't seem like that alone would solve things.... :huh:

 

Am I doing something wrong? Should I delete the files from the new site and start over again? (I've done that 3 times.... :D )

 

Thanks.... B)

-Ed-

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I talked with support via chat (think it was Saturday) and they suggested uploading to the /www folder... after I read a few more things on the forums I found the /www is just anouther view of the /public_html folder so I uploaded it there. I can view the site okay now, with it loaded to the /public_html folder but I can't edit (open) it under FP2000.... B)

-Ed-

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Wow, I couldn't add a reply for awhile - saw no window to type any text into!

 

Anyway, yes, I'm using FrontPage 2000. I already opened a ticket, just thought it might be nice to document this problem if it was a general problem for all new users...

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Ed, by persist, I was referring to

Anyway, my domain change has not propagated yet and maybe this problem goes away when it does propagate, but it doesn't seem like that alone would solve things.... 

 

Sorry for any confusion. Yes, go ahead and open a ticket regarding your issue now which is that you can't edit (open) it under FP2000....

 

They will be able to help you best with this as they can look into your account.

 

Lianna

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My ticket was closed but I'm reopening it, as suggested by the closing person if the advice didn't work. He suggested public_html instead of www also but it didn't work.

 

Ed wrote to me that he tried using publishing via http://(ip_string)/public_html/

And when FP gave him the error message, suggesting to try a ftp site, he typed in:

ftp://(ip_string)/public_html/ and that worked... FrontPage uploaded but then he couldn't

open the web page from with FrontPage (using the ftp URL).

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I reopened my ticket and it was closed again and I reopened it and then it was closed again. Finally I understand - after a chat with totalchoiceguru.

 

This is what is in our welcome e-mail:

FRONTPAGE USERS -

Please upload to your domain name as follows -

http://****

or before DNS propagation

66.11.163.212/www

 

So I tried "66.11.163.212/www". But with FrontPage 2000, it defaults to assuming you're talking http - equivalent to "http://66.11.163.212/www". That doesn't work. You can't use http until the domain is transfered. (Actually I've read other forums people mentioning the ability to change your own computer's DNS lookups which would probably fool FrontPage into working).

 

The welcome e-mail is clear ONLY FOR FrontPage 2002 users. For FrontPage 2002, "66.11.163.212/www" means to transfer using FTP. FTP transfer works fine, though of course isn't as friendly in FrontPage.

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:huh: I guess that is what I would up doing... I got the web to transfer with FrontPage (doing a ftp upload) but.... have we yet figured out how to access the web page with FP2000 before the domain propagates? :P

 

Wayne; are you saying that FP2000 will not open an http:// session with an IP addressed site? :)

 

Thanks, :blink:

-Ed-

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Here is the problem folks.

 

You can not publish to HTTP and a IP address in Frontpage 2000 or back.

 

It will only publish to FTP.

 

Once your domain name resolves and is fully propagated it will upload just dandy.

 

This bug was corrected in FP 2002 but persists in FP 2000 and earlier.

 

Simply put, you have to FTP until your domain propagates.

 

thanks

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I tried fooling my Windows 98 computer's DNS - either by changing c:\windows\hosts.sam or c:\windows\system\hosts.sam - or by Network Neighborhood -> Properties, selected TCP/IP for my PCI adapter which connects to my cable modem, Properties -> DNS Configuration, Enable DNS, placed 66.11.163.212 and 66.11.163.213 in the DNS Server Search Order. Neither of these tricks worked, and yes I did reboot.

 

But I had published my site via FTP, and I went ahead and changed my registrar's DNS settings to point to TCH's.

 

The next morning, just 9 hours after making that change, the DNS change had propagated enough for me to see that it had worked! :( And FrontPage works fine using http. I'm a happy customer.

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Hey Ed,

 

Have you been able to update the NS for the domain yet? I just did a WhoIs for your domain (tulsalutheran.org) and it still shows your old host NS's listed -

Name Server:NS1.****

Name Server:NS2.****

Name Server:NS3.****

Name Server:NS4.****

 

 

Is the registrar still not able to get updates made to .org's in the registry?

 

Lianna

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Do you research and buy something with much more power. FP is weak.

I have not been around the web page layout world in a while... any recommendations on a small, clean package. Graphical based (not html coding), but results in tight, clean HTML.

 

If not recommendations, a good site that does reviews.

 

I think i will ge going with Moveable Type for blog/posting and want a tool to do design work for that.

 

Thanks,

R.

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Hey Ed,

 

Have you been able to update the NS for the domain yet? I just did a WhoIs for your domain (tulsalutheran.org) and it still shows your old host NS's listed -

Name Server:NS1.****

Name Server:NS2.****

Name Server:NS3.****

Name Server:NS4.****

 

 

Is the registrar still not able to get updates made to .org's in the registry?

 

Lianna

Lianna;

NetworkSoloutions finally started allowing changes to the .ORG's last week. I had to go in and request the DNS changes again but they propogated within 24-48 hrs like normal.

I was able to use Fronpage 2000 in a normal manner from that point on.

I'm a happy camper. :)

-Ed-

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