Guest kyle Posted January 11, 2003 Posted January 11, 2003 can i get into my account via telnet? Quote
orangechicken Posted January 11, 2003 Posted January 11, 2003 Shell accounts are not available by default. I believe there's a possibility on a case-by-case basis - but only for extremely good reasons I'd think. Head Guru will give a definitive answer. Quote
section31 Posted January 13, 2003 Posted January 13, 2003 hehe..I just got rejected for a request I made to get shell acess....seems like very few cheap webhosts allow shell access for security reasons...pity Quote
Guest Head Guru - away Posted January 13, 2003 Posted January 13, 2003 Who you calling cheap? You were rejected because you presented no compelling technical reason for SSH access. We do allow SSH on a case by case basis only. Cheap? :0 Quote
section31 Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 oh sorry bill...I didn't mean to offend u. I should have chosen a more propitious word than cheap...I meant inexpensive as a good thing not a bad... look here under the first 2 definitions thats what i meant...lol http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cheap I'm so sorry, and I don't wish to get on your bad sad Quote
KevinW Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 Hey, nice 'come back' and response! Sometimes we all can take something the wrong way, or say something the wrong way. Good of you to understand Bill's side, and to respond accordingly. Welcome aboard the SNH train! -kw Quote
Lianna Posted January 14, 2003 Posted January 14, 2003 Really good come back! And a good thing you said 1&2, not 3-7! Lianna Quote
Guest Guest Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 other than your lack of SSH shell access, your plans seem to meet all my requirements (i'm unhappy with my current host). however, SSH access is a must-have requirement for me. i use pine exclusively for email. my site is built around PHP and mySQL and i prefer to edit files and access my databases directly on my web server rather than all this back-and-forth FTP nonsense. is that a good enough reason? would i be granted shell access? please let me know. thanks, gabe anderson (www.gabeanderson.com) you can reach me here: www.gabeanderson.com/contact Quote
Guest gabe anderson Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 here's yet another reason why i would like SSH access: even if i don't end up using you as my primary host, your large disk space allocation for cheap monthly cost is appealing to me for backup purposes. i would like to schedule a daily cronjob from my primary webhost to my secondary web host to backup all site data via scp. please let me know (www.gabeanderson.com/contact) if i would be given shell access for the reasons i've outlined here. thanks, gabe Quote
Guest gabe anderson Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 i just remembered another must-have requirement: spamassassin. and a reason why i would need shell access. here's my full list of requirements: http://www.gabeanderson.com/life/archives/000308.php thanks, gabe Quote
rayners Posted January 25, 2003 Posted January 25, 2003 SpamAssassin is right there in CPanel. Just one click and it's enabled. Quote
idallen Posted March 11, 2003 Posted March 11, 2003 You were rejected because you presented no compelling technical reason for SSH access. We do allow SSH on a case by case basis only. I'm a Unix user since 1976 (University of Waterloo, Canada) and Unix sysadmin since the 1980's. My current hosting provider here in Ottawa gives me SSH and RSYNC access to my account so that I can update my site using a secure and efficient transfer method. (I cringe any time I have to use telnet or FTP over a public network.) I have an SSH tunnel from home to their POPmail server so that I can pick up my POPmail securely over the Internet. I'm just used to managing my web site using a Unix command line interface. I'd like to host with you this spring; how might I negotiate with you for SSH/shell access? I am excited by the responsiveness of TCH here - I was sysadmin for the local FreeNet (www.ncf.ca) for three years and I really appreciate people who answer their bulletin boards well. Bravo, TCH! Quote
Guest Randell Jesup Posted March 12, 2003 Posted March 12, 2003 rsync (using SSH as a transport agent) is a good reason. If you have large databases, you don't want to have to ftp them down, modify them, and then ftp them back up. rsync will get them down with minimal work, you can do your modifications, and upload the changes via rsync (this assumes you temporarily block changes during this period, which with rsync should be fairly quick compared to ftp). Moving files/directory trees by FTP could also be a pain (not to mention chewing bandwidth; doubly so if you need to update stuff while travelling and using dial-in access). Also, with shell access, you can do sql commands directly to change the DB. I'm guessing you have some sort of sql-gui front end which can handle that case, so it may not be as critical. Lastly, as mentioned, secure email access instead of unencrypted is possible. You can limit access to ssh login to a specific IP or IP/24 or such (though that can have it's annoyances). Quote
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