TCH-Thomas Posted April 10, 2004 Posted April 10, 2004 Dont Mess with mom My son came home from school one day, with a smirk upon his face. He decided he was smart enough, to put me in my place. Guess what I learned in Civics Two, that's taught by Mr. Wright? It's all about the laws today, The "Children's Bill of Rights." It says I need not clean my room, don't have to cut my hair. No one can tell me what to think, or speak, or what to wear. I have freedom from religion, and regardless what you say, I don't have to bow my head, and I sure don't have to pray. I can wear earrings if I want, And pierce my tongue and nose. I can read and watch just what I like, and get tattoos from head to toes. And if you ever spank me, I'll charge you with a crime. I'll back up all my charges, with the marks on my behind. Don't you ever touch me, My body's only for my use, not for your hugs and kisses, that's just more child abuse. Don't preach about your morals, like your Mama did to you, That's nothing more than mind control, And it's illegal too! Mom, I have these children's rights, so you can't influence me, or I'll call Children's Services Division, better known as C. S. D. Of course my first instinct was To toss him out the door. But the chance to teach him a lesson made me think a little more. I mulled it over carefully, I couldn't let this go. A smile crept upon my face, he's messing with a pro. The next day I took him shopping at the local Goodwill Store. I told him,"Pick out all you want, there's shirts and pants galore. I've called and checked with C. S. D. who said they didn't care, if I bought you K-Mart shoes, instead of those Nike Airs. And I've canceled that appointment to take your driver's test. The C. S. D. is unconcerned, so I'll decide what's best." I said "No time to stop and eat, or pick up stuff to munch. And tomorrow you can start to learn, to make your own sack lunch." Just save the raging appetite, and wait till dinner time. We're having liver and onions, a favorite dish of mine. He asked "Can I please rent a movie, to watch on my VCR?" "Sorry, but I sold your TV, to put new tires on my car." I also rented out your room, you'll take the couch instead. All the C. S. D. requires is a roof for over your head. Your clothing won't be trendy now, and I'll choose what we eat. That allowance that you used to get, will buy me something neat. I'm selling off your jet ski, dirt-bike and roller blades. Check out the "Parents Bill of Rights," It's in effect today! Hey hot shot, are you crying, and why are you on your knees? Are you asking God to help you out, instead of C. S. D..? Quote
!!blue Posted April 10, 2004 Posted April 10, 2004 To share a story of a stubborn child--not me--she didn't want to wash the dish she ate on and just cleaned the dish and spoon with a napkin. Her mom told her that if she wasn't going to wash it to save it and that would be "her" dish. So she saved it and the next time she ate grabbed "her" dish and started serving herself food. Then she got upset when she found a dog hair on her dish and her mom told her, "Oh well, u didn't want to wash it, so now you have to eat the dog hair too!" Shoulda seen the look on her face! (no she didn't eat it and she did wash her dish!) !!blue Quote
DarqFlare Posted April 10, 2004 Posted April 10, 2004 lol... Seriously, there is a middle ground when raising children. I'm only 20 myself, and still live at home with my father & stepmother (Attending UNLV), but there's a middle ground. It's like a relationship with someone. One entity cannot be in complete control, otherwise things don't work out well. I've been more of my father's friend than a "child" to him, so I think I've turned out well as a result. I could also be ananomaly, but that doesn't help my argument. lol! Quote
Deverill Posted April 10, 2004 Posted April 10, 2004 I've been more of my father's friend than a "child" to him, so I think I've turned out well as a result. But we must remember the anti-drug commercial where the parents are the kid's friends and let her do pretty much whatever she wants and she's saying in the commercial that "I need parents! I don't need friends." There is a good deal of truth to that because as friends, parents are IMO too lenient and the child does not learn the tough things of "Do this because it will be good for you," but just the "do whatever feels good" road to destruction. Not that this is any way related to you, Robert. I guess you turned out pretty ok. I suspect there were times that your father had to be "not your friend but your father" and did so. The key is learning how to be both whenever applicable. Quote
HCSuperStores Posted April 10, 2004 Posted April 10, 2004 Interesing little rhyme there ... and comments about parenting. Having 6 kids myself you can guess that things are different in my house. I bet most of you would cringe at my discipline style. We would appear very strict to what the typical family picture is painted. We demand a "first time" discipline response from our kids, and we do spank our kids. Most of the "spanking" happens for the 6 and under group, but my 8 year old gets a swat once in a while. As children are taught and aware of the value relationship and privleges play in their lives, discipline changes to be that of taking away priviliges, or sometimes the knowledge that thier actions have dissapointed Mom or Dad. My children also contribute to the keeping up of the house, including dishes, laundry, and general cleaning. They also help in occasional entertainment of our 3 month old son. Our 7 year old is excellent with small kids. With six kids we just have to run a tight ship. Our house would be anarchy without it. But one thing I am thankful for is that we can take them anywhere and not be concerned about embarassing public fits. They are great kids and respect their parents. And we love them all very much. They're also very affectionate too ... and give that affection to us freely and often, as we do to them. Since our oldest is 8 we can't predict what the teen years will hold, but we are hopeful. One motto I've always believed is that: "If you don't discipline your kids, someone will" (their boss or the law). But good discipline is only the beginning, but without it it's difficult to teach and develop good, strong relationships with your kids. My thoughts of course ... Quote
TCH-Thomas Posted April 10, 2004 Author Posted April 10, 2004 Hm... I posted this as a "Fun & cute" thing. which turned out to be a discussion, which i dont mind. Perhaps one of the mods or staff should move this to open discussion. Quote
TCH-Bruce Posted April 10, 2004 Posted April 10, 2004 We demand a "first time" discipline response from our kids, and we do spank our kids. Most of the "spanking" happens for the 6 and under group, but my 8 year old gets a swat once in a while.Hooray! More parents ought to spank their children. It was effective on my brother and me growing up. But one thing I am thankful for is that we can take them anywhere and not be concerned about embarassing public fits. Nothing irritates me more than being in a restaurant and have screaming misbehaving children there as well. If you can't control your children then you shouldn't be in a public restaurant with them. Congratulations HC. More parents should take a proactive approach to child rearing. Quote
Bunni Posted April 10, 2004 Posted April 10, 2004 I agree with Bruce. Congratulations to HC for being conscientious enough to raise smart respectable responsible children, even at a young age. There were 5 of us kids growing up and we were raised zackly as HC says he is raising his. I raised my two the same. Spankings were not excessive but distributed as deemed necessary by the protocol set by me in our home. I will admit that by today's standards, I was rather strict. My children are now 28 and 24 and I've always been very proud of the way they behave, then and now. I could take them anywhere and be assured they would behave. I'll never understand today's thinking on childrearing but I'm appalled almost on a daily basis by the way children act in public places. It's sad really. Just my humble opinions, of course.... Quote
HCSuperStores Posted April 10, 2004 Posted April 10, 2004 Since we have 6 kids, that's pretty much what our family is about ... raising kids. We don't get to go out that that much though, but we LOVE leaving our kids with people. We've had these startled sitters who said "I told the kids it was time to go to bed ... and they said OK ... I was amazed! They got ready for bed without complaining." It's sad, but others notice that. Usually the older generation praises our family. They notice more than my generation. But we're very happy ... and our children are, for the most part, a joy. For those who read this and think "They must get into trouble sometime." Let me reasure you ... they do!!!! And some days I could tear my hair out, but thankfully those days are few and far between. Thank you Bruce and Brich for your encouragement. Sometimes you feel like you're the only people who believe spanking can be an appropriate form of discipline. It's good to hear that others out there still think so too. Quote
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