Guest Nutech Posted December 30, 2002 Posted December 30, 2002 Can we use the entire 1GB of space for emails? Can I include any number (or a reasonably high number on the order of 100) of email addresses in one mail. We have mailing lists for our clients and average about 100 clients per list. We have had problems with our current provider regarding this issue
Guest Nutech Posted December 31, 2002 Posted December 31, 2002 Did I ask a question that has already been answered elsewhere? I see no replies from the "Head Guru" as well as an reply to the emails I have sent. If you have answered this question previously, could you point me to that thread?
Head Guru Posted December 31, 2002 Posted December 31, 2002 You could not use your entire disk space allotment for email as this would overwork the shared email server and would not be fair to other users. You would need a semi-dedicated server for this. Those are featured here
TCH-Don Posted December 31, 2002 Posted December 31, 2002 You may want to try Group Mail it includes Reconnect Every: This setting determines how many messages the software should send before creating a nice new fresh connection. Some mail servers have limits on the number of messages they will receive in a session, others just get plain cranky if you send too much and get slow and awkward and tend to have angry network administrators on the other end steaming. For typical dialup users the setting should be kept to 25 or under (unless otherwise informed by your ISP - some may only allow 5 or 10 messages per go). I use this to send 60 plus newsletter emails through my ISP, their limit is 25 at a time, so I send 20, pause for 5 seconds, continue. It has mail merge and a group manager.
Sully Posted February 28, 2003 Posted February 28, 2003 Turtle - Any tips on how I can get a page up that will allow visitors to sign up for my newsletter through my site? I would like to get just a simple form or something that people can fill out, which would then forward the information to my mailing list for distribution. I happen to have a copy of GroupMail (Free), which I could use to send out the emails, but I would like to create a more automated process. Thanks! Sully
bethohio3 Posted February 28, 2003 Posted February 28, 2003 I'm a little confused--why would you need Group Mail instead of just using the provided Mailman lists? There's even a built-in interface for Mailman. Reading over Group Mail's services, it sounds as if *most* of the uses people would want to put it through are spam. Am I missing something? Uses of about 50 recipients sounds like small business work--big lists sound like, well, spam. I receive several high-volume email newsletters from reputable companies. I suspect, however, that those are companies that budget appropriately for their email marketing and wouldn't even consider budget/free services--they are likely to have programmers on-staff to handle their database of people who have signed up for their marketing emails. --Beth
Sully Posted March 1, 2003 Posted March 1, 2003 Beth - Believe it or not, there are those of us out there who are a small business, but still have a large number of people they need to get information to. Since the Head Guru is very explicit about no spamming, it would not behoove me to try to do something like that, when he is on record as saying they will terminate an account without warning if the account owner is spamming. I have about 1,000 people who have opted in to receive my company's newsletter on leadership, strategic planning, and executive/management development. We're relatively new (the people on our list come from previous lives where we've done this same kind of work individually), so we don't yet have the budget to implement larger scale solutions, hence the need to utilize as many resources as possible with the lowest cost possible (without, of course, limiting operability). Also, I am looking for a way to allow people to sign up via my website to receive information from us. We put on seminars and other events, and sending out emails is the most cost-effective way for us to communicate with a wide (and widely dispersed) audience. If you have some useful suggestions, I'm all ears. I'm the first to admit that I'm a relative newbie; I was referred to this post by Lianna, as she thought Turtle might be able to help me, and simply posted here to see if there was someone out there who has gone through what I'm going through. I don't know anything about Mailman, or it's uses, and I haven't been able to find much here on the boards that answered my questions (perhaps I'm daft, and just missed it somewhere). I don't mean to be rude, but I resent the spam implication, and the reference to "reputable" companies. If you care to share your expertise or a way to help us "budget appropriately" for our email marketing, I'm more than willing to accept any help (including monetary! ) I can get, so if you have something, please send it along! It's tough enough having a small business in an economy like this -- it's even tougher being a start-up in an area that not only has economic problems, but political/terrorism problems as well. Sully
Lianna Posted March 1, 2003 Posted March 1, 2003 Sully, Sorry, but part of that was my miss. I should have also told you that Mailman is a software for managing electronic mail discussion and e-newsletter lists. It is built into cPanel and available for you to use. One reason that I did not mention it to you earlier is that I personally have found it sort of cumbersome. Second, because you specifically mentioned interfacing a form to a database so I guess my head was stuck in that mode. As to spamming, TCH makes Mailman available for use by its clients. I seriously doubt that you will have any problem using Mailman for distribution of 1000 newsletters. If you are at all concerned about that number and would like to forewarn/get approval for that bulk of mailing, then by all means drop an email to support and let them respond. To put things into perspective, a site was recently shut down for spamming, but the outpour was greater than 45,000 emails in ONE DAY. Now that is unacceptable. So ask if you are at all questioning the 'safeness' of your newsletter going out via Mailman. By the way, you canread more about Mailman here. Lianna
Sully Posted March 1, 2003 Posted March 1, 2003 Lianna - No worries! Actually you pointed me in the direction that was available. I agree, from what I can tell Mailman is cumbersome, and I'm having trouble figuring it out! I didn't want to re-invent the wheel. The spam thing is a great concern for me, as I want to create an opt-in list whereby people could sign in to a guestbook (or something similar) on my site, and then receive the information they ask for. My problem is, I'm "just" technical enough to know that certain things are possible, but not nearly enough yet to make them a reality!! Thanks for following up on this, and if you hear of anything, please let me know. It's nice to have a place to go for help, which is why I'm here (both on this discussion board, as well as TCH)!! Sully P.S. Part of the trouble I am having is just figuring out HOW to send a message out to the list -- are there instructions on the Mailman site re: this? It's one thing to set it up, but I need to know how to actually send the message to those on the list (i.e., how does it get addressed, etc.)...I don't see an option within Mailman to Send To List. Do I just create an email, and then send it to the address for the list, which in turn sends it out to list members?
Lianna Posted March 1, 2003 Posted March 1, 2003 Sully, Yes, I think that is exactly how it works. You send an email to the list, the list distributes that email to its members. But, like I said before, I'm not the guru of Mailman. Maybe Beth can help? Li
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