TCH-Thomas Posted August 30, 2004 Posted August 30, 2004 (edited) Heres an article about the latest about MS Longhorn Edited August 30, 2004 by Jikrantz Quote
TCH-Rob Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 06? Dont know if I will be able to use a computer by then. I will be an old man. Quote
borfast Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 They're taking all this time probably because they're packing it up with everything they can in a desperate effort to resist the wave of migration away from their products. IE is the one suffering the most, because people are finally realizing IE is not a good browser. Too bad it took them too long and a load of viruses to make them see the light. Windows is also starting to suffer some casualties, with big boys like IBM changing all their internal office machines to Linux; HP selling PC's with Linux preloaded, governments all over the world switching from Windows to other Free Operating Systems and a lot more of other folks turning their backs on MS. They better take their time and deliver something good, for a change. But I don't have much hope. I lost all hope on the Redmond giant a long time ago. Quote
TCH-Rob Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 with big boys like IBM changing all their internal office machines to Linux Then they are being slow about it. I am still on XP. Not every machine will be switched. Much of the support software I use will not run on Linux. They are migrating many over but there will be many that will stay. Did you see that the DOD is running an IBM super computer running Linux for weapons dev? Quote
borfast Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 (edited) Yeah, I imagined that. But I don't know the details, I only know about it from this Inquirer story: Internal memo confirms IBM move to Linux desktop. I think I also saw something on SlashDot about the DoD's Linux supercomputer. And if you search Google about "switching to Linux" you'll find lots of stories about companies, schools, governments, institutions and other entities that are already making the transition or at least considering it. Edited August 31, 2004 by TCH-Raul Quote
borfast Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 (edited) Oh, and by the way, Microsoft is not planning on having Windows secured until around 2011 This one is hilarious Qutiong from Slashdot: In a recent interview with Wired Magazine, Microsoft Security Program Manager Stephen Toulouse, when asked about their now 2 year old focus on security, comments "it's more of a 10-year timeline." He also reveals that he runs Firefox. Edited August 31, 2004 by TCH-Raul Quote
TCH-Rob Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 He also reveals that he runs Firefox. That is funny. I think it is a good thing that people are finding they can move to alternatives. It is good for those that can work that way and I hope that in the end it is better for us, the consumers. Quote
borfast Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 (edited) It's even funnier after reading the interview. The interviewer says "Meanwhile, Firefox and Opera look awfully appealing." and the MS guy answers "Security is really an industry-wide problem. Just this morning I had to install an update to Firefox to block a flaw that would've allowed an attacker to run a program on my system". Translation: "Hey, mister, don't you say bad things about our programs, you hear?! Those other free software things have lots of problems too, like that one I just patched this morning, and like... err... well...errr... like... err... that one I just patched... See?! They have lots of problems too! Nhia nhia nhia! So don't you say bad things, or I'll go tell Mr. Bill Gates!" The funniest part is that he doesn't say that this flaw in Firefox is actually a flaw in Windows and the Firefox programmers simply decided to cripple their program so their users wouldn't be affected by yet another MS error. These MS guys crack me up. It's pathetic. Why can't they admit their browser (and e-mail client, for that matter) is practically the sole responsible for the propagation of viruses these days? That their browser is insecure, it's buggy, it's bloated, it's outdated, lacks features that have become a standard for almost all other browsers. If they did that, they'd earn back a little bit of respect. They would benefit 1000% more if they were honest but no, they have to defend their products and attack others, even if for that end they have to lie with all their teeth. I always heard that the first step to solve a problem is admitting you have one. But Microsoft doesn't seem to listen to anyone else except themselves, so they must have missed it... This is one of the biggest reasons why I don't think I'll ever go back to MS products if I have a choice. Edited August 31, 2004 by TCH-Raul Quote
TCH-Rob Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 I always heard that the first step to solve a problem is admitting you have one.Sorry, I dont do anything that takes 12 steps. Why can't they admit their browser (and e-mail client, for that matter) is practically the sole responsible for the propagation of viruses these days? Again this comes down to why write a virus that will only affect 3 people. Need food, argue later Quote
TCH-Rob Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 Ok, dinner is over. Now, I wasnt really argueing. I think it is a good thing for people to make the change. I think MS needs a big slap in the face. I also hope it makes them make a better product. I can only see it benifiting us. Quote
borfast Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 Always eating... Yes, I also hope it makes them make a better product and I think it will but since I lost my hope on them, I don't expect it to be enough for me to use. And even if they manage to do something really incredible, I still don't think I'll use it, because of their other issues (their marketing strategies and stuff like I mentioned in my previous post). But yes, it will definitely benefit us. Quote
allaboutmadonna.com Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 Can't wait, I will have to install all beta versions ... :Nerd: Quote
youneverknow Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 Did you know that the head of Microsoft security uses Firefox as his browser of choice...I found that very interesting. Quote
allaboutmadonna.com Posted September 3, 2004 Posted September 3, 2004 Did you know that the head of Microsoft security uses Firefox as his browser of choice...I found that very interesting. I'm using Firefox right now Final version 1.0 will be released on October 16 !!! Quote
champagnemojo Posted September 5, 2004 Posted September 5, 2004 Why can't they admit their browser (and e-mail client, for that matter) is practically the sole responsible for the propagation of viruses these days? I dunno Raul...I kinda like how flawed Windows' security is. The way I see it, the easier it is to break into windows systems, the less likely all the young little "hackers" will bother learning how to break into linux. If ms ever did learn how to do decent security all of these little hooligans might start looking into rootkits and such. On a related note, I do enjoy when I go to a website and it pops up a little box that says something like, "Sorry, your computer is not WIN32 compatible" or some such...in other words, "Sorry, we're unable to load this adware onto your computer". Quote
borfast Posted September 5, 2004 Posted September 5, 2004 lol Yeah, those sites that say "Sorry, your browser is not Win32 compatible" are just hilarious Quote
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