oneillg Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 Hi, I am currently using yahoo as a host. (www.realestate-md.com) I am using frames and I am recently noticing that all of the frame pages are not loading. This is an intermittent problem, as when you refresh the screen it may work. Sometimes the background image is not loaded on a frame page. It seems any image file is at risk of not being loaded. Sometimes it appears slow in loading. Not even sure if it has anything to do with frames. Is this a host problem? Does this happen here as well? Sure would like to have this problem fixed soon. Thanks for any observations. -Gabe Quote
HCSuperStores Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 If frames load sometimes and not others, it could be either. Most likely it's a browser thing. I've had IE do funny things with frames. For sure, TCH is rock solid. If your page is coded correctly it will serve up your pages, frames, images ... anything you want! However, TCH can't control browser problems and coding issues with your pages, although the people here will try to help you with that too! Come on in! The web-water is just fine. I'm just a customer by the way! Quote
TCH-Bruce Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 Why not sign up and give TCH a try. They offer a 30-day money back guarantee. Quote
oneillg Posted March 18, 2004 Author Posted March 18, 2004 The weird thing is that it worked fine for a long time. I have been tweaking only things that do with web promotion - keywords, titles, descriptions and the like. I would hate to redo my whole site thinking it's a problem with frames when it may be the host. Thanks for the post. -Gabe Quote
ThumpAZ Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 (edited) Welcome to the fold, Gabe. Hopefully we will be welcoming you to the Family soon! I went to your current page and it does in fact have some errors on it. At line 74, Character 1 on homepage.htm there is an object expected. it is not until my browser times out that everything loads fully (and that is nearly 5 minutes!) Lines at and around 74 show: "</html><!-- text below generated by server. PLEASE REMOVE --><!-- Counter/Statistics data collection code --><script language="JavaScript" src="http://hostingprod.com/js_source/geov2.js"></script><script language="javascript">geovisit();</script><noscript><img src="http://visit.webhosting.yahoo.com/visit.gif?us1079631888" alt="setstats" border="0" width="1" height="1"></noscript> <IMG SRC="http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=19190039&t=1079631888" ALT=1 WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=1>" I would say that it is likely yahoo's servers that could very well be corrupting your code, as their stuff is inserted at the bottom of your pages. Good Luck. -Glenn Edited March 18, 2004 by TCH-Glenn Quote
oneillg Posted March 18, 2004 Author Posted March 18, 2004 I knew they did that stuff when it's a free site, but didn't realize they were doing it on pay sites. Do you know the reason they do it? Do you guys do it? Is there someplace on your servers I could put part of my site up to test it before I committed to the move? Thanks again. Quote
ThumpAZ Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 (edited) If you downloaded your pages before the upgrade and did not edit them in any way, then it might be a remnant. Or if they transferred the pages for you, it could have happened there. Or they may just insert it on all sites for traffic counting. No, TCH does not place anything on your pages... you are the only one who can mess them up The 30-day trial is all I know of that you could do, and I am sure that you won't regret it. Edited March 18, 2004 by TCH-Glenn Quote
TCH-Don Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 Hi Gabe, if you sign up (30 day money back guarantee) you will get a welcome e-mail with instructions on using ftp and viewing your site with the Ip address. So you can test out your site without moving it until you are happy it works here. And only you put what you want on your site. Quote
oneillg Posted March 18, 2004 Author Posted March 18, 2004 The reason that I picked yahoo originally was that for any free site I had, they would all load consistently and quickly. I just became aware of you guys yesterday. Do you have any examples of business sites that get high traffic hosted by you I could visit? To be honest, I do not expect that much traffic at first, but for anyone who visits I expect it to load as quickly as their side supports it. I hope to get a decent amount of traffic as the year rolls on, but expect no degradation in performance on your side. Glenn, do you know of any issues with using frames? I know that most (but not all) browsers support them. How I would envision it working for me is if I picked a plan, put my site up on your servers, and tested it before I kill my site from yahoo. My only question is, how is the domain name transferred? What "name" could I use in the mean time while testing it? Thanks. Quote
TCH-Don Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 Gabe, I use frames on my site (click the WWW button) and have had no problems. And the speed is terrific. I have more than 400 pages and 1200 images. Quote
ThumpAZ Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 (edited) Gabe, As Don said, frames are fine here, as are high-traffic sites. Most browsers support them fine, especially the common ones. Some of the more obscure ones might play a little fun on the viewer, but the people using those are used to odd page loads and layouts from pages designed for certain browsers. You should not have much, if any, trouble from the viewers I envision visiting your site. Take a look around http://www.totalchoicehosting.com/web-hosting-family.html for many examples of different sites. You can easily open the account and look around at your site. However, absolute links will take you to rither a dead page or to the Yahoo-hosted site. Keep that in mind. The domain transfer is easy. You can either transfer the domain to TCH for $10.95 (extending your registration of the name for one year), or you can simply repoint the DNS servers to the TCH ones (the Help Desk can get all of this sorted out for you). Let us know if there is anything else we can help you with. Edited March 18, 2004 by TCH-Glenn Quote
TCH-Bruce Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 The reason that I picked yahoo originally was that for any free site I had, they would all load consistently and quickly. I just became aware of you guys yesterday. Do you have any examples of business sites that get high traffic hosted by you I could visit?I don't know what you mean by high traffic site but if you go to our Web Hosting Family Members page you can click some of those links to get an idea of the speed of the TCH servers. Glenn, do you know of any issues with using frames? I know that most (but not all) browsers support them. Most browser support frames. However they are not search engine friendly and IMHO should not be used. How I would envision it working for me is if I picked a plan, put my site up on your servers, and tested it before I kill my site from yahoo. My only question is, how is the domain name transferred? What "name" could I use in the mean time while testing it? Your welcome email you receive when you sign up will give you an IP address for you to upload and test your site. Domain transfer is done by you going to where you registered it and change the DNS server names to point to the TCH domain servers instead of where they are pointing now. If you are not the administrative contact for your domain you may have to find out who is and have them modify it. And you can optionally transfer your domain to TCH for $10.95 and they will add an additional year to your domain contract. Hope this helps. Quote
oneillg Posted March 18, 2004 Author Posted March 18, 2004 A few more questions, then. Do you support ASP? One thing Yahoo has is cookie cutter code that you can copy and paste into your page that supports forms. For example, I need a simple form where a user fills out information and the fields get returned to me in an email. Do you have anything similar? I would hate to have to write PERL scripts to support this I think I saw that the basic site is $4.00 a month. Does that include email? I would still like to have my email account gabe@realestate-md.com. (BTW I am convinced there is something wrong with yahoo right now - I click on my links that go to other sites and get no problems - click on links of mine and get a big wait.) Do you have site statistics? I would like to know how many people got to me from a link on any particular website. Thanks for all the interest - I will visit the other sites. -G Quote
oneillg Posted March 18, 2004 Author Posted March 18, 2004 Most browser support frames. However they are not search engine friendly and IMHO should not be used. I think that they require additional TLC when it comes to being search engine friendly, but I got a few tips from scrubtheweb.com and think I'm in good shape. If there is something else I am missing I would love to hear about it. The other issue is if an "orphan" page is found with no connection back that can be a problem, but I have java scripts that protect that from happening. -G Quote
oneillg Posted March 18, 2004 Author Posted March 18, 2004 Also - just tried the CPanel demo and it timed out twice http://cpaneldemo.cpanel.net:2082/ Is it down or is it me? Tks. Quote
HCSuperStores Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 The demo is at least slow ... your link had issues with me too. My cPanel however is right there. Interesting ... Quote
MikeJ Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 (edited) Also - just tried the CPanel demo and it timed out twice http://cpaneldemo.cpanel.net:2082/ Is it down or is it me? Tks. cpanel.net's demo is currently down while they are doing some site maintenance over there. That is unrelated to TCH other than we use their software locally (that is, their demo site has no affect to our actual cPanel use for the TCH webservers). From cpanel.net's website: The demos are temporarily unavailable while we migrate them to a new system. They should be available again in a few days. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause. The $4 web hosting plan includes email and all of the other options that are listed for that package on the web hosting plans page. This also includes AWSTATS for site statistics that will be installed and setup for you when you sign up for an account. There are several one-click install applications available. Email form handling is not, but a family member has a very easy to use Ultimate Form Mailer script available on his website that you can setup without doing any script writing. Information about the script can be found here: http://www.totalchoicehosting.com/help/id65.htm TCH does not support ASP. PHP and Perl are the primary server side scripting launguages supported. Edited March 18, 2004 by TCH-MikeJ Quote
oneillg Posted March 18, 2004 Author Posted March 18, 2004 It must not be my day - I clicked on the surefiredesigns link and got nowhere. The main site is up (surefiredesigns.com) but I don't know where to go after that. -G Quote
MikeJ Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 That was my fault. I mistyped the URL. It has been fixed. Quote
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