Guest doug Posted February 4, 2003 Posted February 4, 2003 I read somewhere here you guys direct webmail to port 2065? Again, blocked by most corporate firewalls and who knows, blocked soon by DSL providers such as BellSouth (the AOL of DSL) and Earthlink the way they are going. Why doesnt' or does TCH offer webmail on port 80 or 8080? lets see we can access cpanel via http or https, why not webmail? Also, asked this in the incorrect group. Is there anyway I can get SMTP on a port other than 25? Again, Bellsouth DSL and Earthlink DSL both Block port 25. This blocking of port 25 starting to become the norm in the DSL/ISP world. Does TCH offer any work around such as Securemail connections via SMTP, SMTP on port 8080, port 81 etc? Come on TCH, be a leader and offer solutions to common problems that The AOL of DSL Bellsouth and EarthLink are causing. thanks! Quote
TCH-JimE Posted February 4, 2003 Posted February 4, 2003 Hi, Port 80 is for HTTP traffic only. Having ports doing multi jobs is never good idea unless needed. AOL do not block port 25 at present, and company firewalls block it to stop them having a bad day! This is just my own opinion of course Jim Quote
Guest doug Posted February 4, 2003 Posted February 4, 2003 no, Bellsouth DSL and Earthlink DSL both block port 25. That is why I am looking for a hosting provider that offers an alternative port for SMTP. Also, isn't customer acccess the main point? What good is having a webmail interface if it is blocked via a firewall. Offering it on port 8080 or another well know http port would be a good alternative. Quote
rayners Posted February 4, 2003 Posted February 4, 2003 Just to clear a few things up, let me give you a quick rundown of how internet email works: Outgoing email is sent though WebMail, OE, etc. via SMTP on port 25 (always). That is not something that can be changed. Email Servers talk to each other via SMTP on port 25 (always). Change that, and email no longer works. Incoming email can be gathered a number of ways: WebMail (running on a webserver through any arbitrary port). Here it's 2065. POP3 (for OE, Eudora, etc) on port 110. You could also run something like SquirrelMail on your site. It uses PHP and IMAP to access your mail, and since it runs within your site, you can access it normally (i.e. through port 80). This would probably be a good solution to your firewall problem. Quote
Guest doug Posted February 4, 2003 Posted February 4, 2003 ===Quote=== Outgoing email is sent though WebMail, OE, etc. via SMTP on port 25 (always). That is not something that can be changed. ============ Email Client sending ports in OE, or Eudora can be changed. Outlook express allows you to change the outgoing port for SMTP and Pop3 Internet Accounts/properties/Advanced. Possible to change both the Outgoing SMTP port and POP3 port. Eudora also offers this also Webmail doesn't count since the compose and send is done via a webinterface. There is no communication between the webclient on port 25 or port 110 to the end user. === Quote === Email Servers talk to each other via SMTP on port 25 (always). Change that, and email no longer works. =========== 100% correct. I agree with that Since TCH is running the SMTP and Pop3 server with their shared hosting options, running other email clients with Imap is not an option, great idea, but not possible. The short of it is, that Port 25 is being blocked more and more by ISP's. one of the feature that TCH offers is your own SMTP and Pop3 server with your domain name. Send and receive mail from your own domain name. now about 800,000 clients of Earthlink and Bellsouth.Net can not do this. A great selling point for TCH would be to have alternate SMTP ports other than 25 that their clients can use with the "shared hosting" option to send mail SMTP. Quote
rayners Posted February 4, 2003 Posted February 4, 2003 Email Client sending ports in OE, or Eudora can be changed. Outlook express allows you to change the outgoing port for SMTP and Pop3 Internet Accounts/properties/Advanced. Possible to change both the Outgoing SMTP port and POP3 port. Eudora also offers this also I'll admit, I was completely unaware of that. Running FreeBSD on my home machine, I don't get much chance to play around with OE, Eudora, etc. Since TCH is running the SMTP and Pop3 server with their shared hosting options, running other email clients with Imap is not an option, great idea, but not possible.I'm not sure I follow your logic here. I just tested out SquirrelMail on my site, and it worked just fine. I also did a quick check on a number of the other servers here, and they all seem to be running an IMAP server.A great selling point for TCH would be to have alternate SMTP ports other than 25 that their clients can use with the "shared hosting" option to send mail SMTP. I can't argue with that, but it's far from my decision to make. Quote
Guest doug Posted February 5, 2003 Posted February 5, 2003 ===quote=== I'm not sure I follow your logic here. I just tested out SquirrelMail on my site, and it worked just fine. I also did a quick check on a number of the other servers here, and they all seem to be running an IMAP server. ========== Sweet, I didn't know that it was possible to install another mailer front end on the shared hosting solution? Most hosting providers will not allow you to add another mail front end client to the server. SquirrelMail rocks. I do like the horde mail client that TCH offers. thanks Quote
Guest Guest Posted February 5, 2003 Posted February 5, 2003 wow... didn't know that either... I was always hoping to be able to install and customize my own webmail frontend... Thanks Rayner! Quote
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