TCH-Thomas Posted July 5, 2004 Posted July 5, 2004 I have spent a couple of days now trying to figure this out. Acdsee´s way of sorting files are 098.jpg 099.jpg 100.jpg 1000.jpg 1001.jpg 1002.jpg 1003.jpg 1004.jpg 1005.jpg 1006.jpg 1007.jpg 1008.jpg 1009.jpg 101.jpg 1010.jpg While I want it 098.jpg 099.jpg 100.jpg 101.jpg >>> 1000.jpg 1001.jpg 1002.jpg 1003.jpg 1004.jpg 1005.jpg 1006.jpg 1007.jpg 1008.jpg 1009.jpg 1010.jpg and so on... Does anyone know how to fix this? Quote
borfast Posted July 5, 2004 Posted July 5, 2004 Thomas, I don't think there's a way to "fix" it because, unfortunately, there's nothing "wrong" with it. It's simply the way Windows sorts files First, it sorts them by the first character, then by the second character, etc. If you have 1, 2, 1001, you'll get them sorted like 1, 1001, 2, because 1 and 1001 both start with '1'. The "problem" is that alphabetically that's correct but not mathematically. Since Windows does not know that 1001 is greater than 2, it places 2 after 1001, because all it matters is that the starting character os 1001 comes before the starting character of 2. Hope that makes sense. Quote
TCH-Thomas Posted July 5, 2004 Author Posted July 5, 2004 Oh ok. I thought maybe Acdsee had some sort of own intelligence, but nope, it counts on windows. Mad!!! Thanks Raul Quote
TCH-Thomas Posted July 5, 2004 Author Posted July 5, 2004 I just noticed that the files are sorted correctly in explorer, so it can not be that, Raul. Hm..? Quote
TCH-Bruce Posted July 5, 2004 Posted July 5, 2004 Thomas, Raul is correct that ACDsee is using an alpha sort instead of a numeric sort. The only way you could get what you want is to name all your files with the same number of characters padding with leading zeroes. Quote
TCH-Thomas Posted July 5, 2004 Author Posted July 5, 2004 Im not saying Raul is wrong, im just kind of confused because... How come its sorted correct in explorer then and not like 1, 1001, 2... I mean if acdsee uses some alpha sort because windows does, how come its sorted right (numeric sort) in explorer that is a part in windows? Quote
TCH-Bruce Posted July 5, 2004 Posted July 5, 2004 They are probably using their own internal sort mechanism. I write software and use my own routines to sort and don't rely on Windows to help with it. As to why Windows is sorting it correctly I couldn't say. Under older versions of Windows it worked as Raul says. Same as DOS did. Quote
Virtual Imager Posted July 5, 2004 Posted July 5, 2004 Like Bruce said, the easiest thing to do is rename the files, "with the same number of characters padding with leading zeroes," so that they come out in the right sequence. Or, you could rename them to a, b, c, etc. and sort alphabetically. Another possibility, if the sequence matches the order in which you created them, is to sort by date. Finally, you can add letters in a description field and sort by description. VI Quote
Virtual Imager Posted July 5, 2004 Posted July 5, 2004 Thomas... just thought of another easy way to get your files sorted. In the Navigation Pane view, use your mouse to drag files to whatever order you want them. They will stay this way untill you either choose another sort method or select "delete custom order" from the sort drop down menu. Hope this helps... VI Quote
TCH-Thomas Posted July 5, 2004 Author Posted July 5, 2004 To VI: When I have sorted them through nav. pane, can I then use the batch rename to give them the right numbers? I never used the navigation pane before and the batch rename I never had use for before. Quote
Virtual Imager Posted July 5, 2004 Posted July 5, 2004 You know Thomas, I've never even seen the batch rename function till you mentioned it and I went looking for it. But it does appear to work... My suggestion to you would be to batch copy your images to another folder and try it before you try it on the original folder. It can't hurt to try! This is such a cool program! I've been using Version 4.0 for years and I still keep learning about new functions that make managing my image files so much more efficient. VI Quote
borfast Posted July 5, 2004 Posted July 5, 2004 Thomas, I meant that that's the way ACDSee sorts the files, not Windows. My mistake, sorry. By the way, if you like ACDSee, try Irfanview. It's infinitely cheaper ($0.00 ) and, IMO, much better than ACDSee. Quote
TCH-Rob Posted July 5, 2004 Posted July 5, 2004 By the way, if you like ACDSee, try Irfanview. It's infinitely cheaper ($0.00 ) and, IMO, much better than ACDSee. Yep, I have both ACDSee 6 and Irfanview and I use Irfanview waaaayyyy more than ACDSee. Quote
TCH-Thomas Posted July 5, 2004 Author Posted July 5, 2004 (edited) To Rob I tried the 30 day trial of Acdsee 6.0 some time ago, it crashed all the time. At that time I had 128 MB RAM, a while after I installed more RAM (256 MB) and figured I try it again since I had reformatted my harddrive I should be able to use it 30 days more, but it kept crashing. Is 6.0 stable? To Raul Thanks for the irfanview idea. I have now downloaded it, not yet installed. and, IMO, much better than ACDSee. One thing that crossed my mind though when downloading it was that there is no linux-version, so how can you tell? Uh oh, bad Thomas Edited July 5, 2004 by Jikrantz Quote
borfast Posted July 5, 2004 Posted July 5, 2004 LOL Thomas, I used it when Windows was still my main OS Quote
TCH-Thomas Posted July 5, 2004 Author Posted July 5, 2004 (edited) Back after installing and trying irfanview for the first time... It froze. Maybe it was because I tried to batch rename about 3000 files. I dont know, will try again tomorrow. Im glad you didnt take my question about linux version too seriously. Congrats to second place in Euro 2004 by the way. Edited July 5, 2004 by Jikrantz Quote
borfast Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 Thomas, no problem about the linux-version question. It was a good catch About the Euro 2004: thanks. I usually don't like football (soccer) but I watched most of the Portugal-England game and I liked it. I also watched the last 20 minutes of Portugal-Greece but I didn't like it that much. The Portuguese team didn't win but who cares? It's just a game, right? At least that's the way I see it. Congratulations to the Greek team Quote
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