Netscape 7.1

[boxturt]

I just upgraded to Netscape 7.1 (to add to my IE, my Firebird, My Opera 7 so stop snickering ) and almost all the time, and always in a framed site, if I click 'Reload' it takes me back to the sites index.

 

Is that a setting in 7.1 I missed? Can't find anything on it. This isn't crucial but it's annoying as heck - especially when testing pages.

 

Thanks,

 

Ty

 

ps. it doesn't seem to like tables much either

[borfast]

Hello Ty

 

That's actually how many browsers (all of them?) behave when viewing a page with frames.

Here's what happens behind the courtains:

 

A page with, say, two frames, is composed of three files. The base file (let's call it index.html) is where the two frames' files (frame1.html and frame2.html) are inserted.

 

When you browse a page with frames, the URL you feed your browser is the URL of the index.html file. This file has "instructions" in it that tell the browser to load frame1.html and frame2.html. The browser will then "dig two holes" on index.html and place each file in a hole.

Each of these two files is just a regular HTML file and any link contained in it will replace the file in the respective hole, just like when you click a link on a regular page and it replaces the whole page.

 

Everything's fine until here but when you hit the "Reload" button, the browser fetches the index.html file once again and it doesn't care about what files were loaded into the holes. It will read index.html again and once more index.html will "instruct" the browser to load frame1.html and frame2.html.

 

There. Now that I've written all this, I've read your post again and I noticed that you didn't specifically say that this was the problem. I just assumed it was. So there's a chance that this won't help you at all and I've just wasted the minutes it took me to write all this...

 

Oh, about the tables, I've never used any Netscape version above 4.x but 6.x and 7.x are based on Mozilla and I've been using Mozilla since before 1.0 and never had any problems with tables. What's wrong? Perhaps it's something in the HTML code. Let me know where you're having problems and I'll take a look.

Edited December 2, 2003 by TCH-Raul

[boxturt]

What you say makes perfect sense but it's still odd. And shame on me for not being specific. Let me try again :

 

Generally I right click in the frame I want and reload the page as opposed to using the reload button. So why it reloads the pages aaociated with index.html I'm just not sure.

 

I don't think I'm going to worry about it too much.

 

 

As far as table behavior I'm still not sure. It just seems to want everything defined, such as <td align="left"> content</td> is fine but <td>content</td> puts content dead-center of page instead of defaulting to the left. At least that fixed it for me, can't say for sure that's the overall deal.

 

I still think i may go back and re-install 7.0 though just for ease of use when editing and stuff. Between all my sites Netscape makes up less than 4% of my visitors anyway.

Naughty

[borfast]

Hi Ty.

 

As I suspected, my previous post didn't help much...

 

Well, that's a strange behavior indeed.

If you right click the frame and then select "Reload this frame" (or something equivalent) then it should reload that frame only, not the entire frameset. I might try and install the darn thing (NN 7.1) on my computer to try it out. Can you provide an example (an URL) of where this happens? Or does it happen in any page that uses frames?

 

About the tables, perhaps the text is being centered because the table inherits the text alignment from the table's parent element? Make sure you don't have the table inside another element that centers the text. Again, an example would be good, so I could take a look at the code.

Edited December 3, 2003 by TCH-Raul

[boxturt]

Install it? Seems drastic. I really haven't checked other framed sites for this but 2 of mine would be http://lyricsplayground.com/ and http://boxturt.com/index_frames.html

 

Go to any other linked page within the frameset and try to reload just that new frame and it takes you back to original frameset. Wierd.

 

Tables....my fault - i think.

 

Usually is...lol

 

thanks!

[TCH-Don]

In Mozilla when you right click,

you need to select this frame>reload frame.

So I wonder if it is the same for Netscape?

[boxturt]

Evidently it is so. That does work as it should. Just one of those little quirks I'll have to get used to.

 

So I suppose the question is 'why did it work at all the other way in 7.o?'

 

j/k