mythusmage Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 I'm hopeless, I'm clueless. I am so not technically inclined. Could the TCH staff install Movable Type for me? If so, how much would it cost? Quote
TCH-Bruce Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Welcome to the forums mythusimage. The staff does not install 3rd party software. You can get the MT team to install it for you or you can try yourself and post your questions in the forums and someone will try to help you get it going. I would start with the install instructions provided on this help page. http://www.totalchoicehosting.com/help/id76.htm Quote
TCH-Tim Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 I used those instructions when I migrated to MT and had no problems. If you do, there are plenty of people here that can help you out. Quote
TCH-Don Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Welcome to the Family mythusmage and your new home! you will find lots of MT users here and they are very helpful. We really are like family here. So if you need anything, just ask your new family! We love to help Quote
mythusmage Posted March 1, 2005 Author Posted March 1, 2005 (edited) Well, actually... I'm only new on this version of the boards. Been awhile since I logged in and posted something. Which doesn't change the fact I'm not about to try installing MT for myself. So If anybody would like to make some extra money, drop me a line with terms and we'll see what we can work out. At present I'm looking to get the free version, then upgrading to the 5 author version later when I have the money. Don't know what the Six Apart people charge, but it's probably not something I can afford right now (disability), so keep that in mind. Monthly payments are doable. Thanks for your time. Update: Almost forgot this part. The plan is to get a second account for the blog itself. My mythusmage.com account for my site, and a mythusmageopines.com account for the blog. $10.00 a month for 1,700 megs of space, 50 (I think) gigs of bandwidth, and two domains. I'll sign up for the second account when I know I have somebody to install MT on mythusmageopines.com. We now return you to your regularly scheduled forum. Edited March 1, 2005 by mythusmage Quote
lilirose Posted March 1, 2005 Posted March 1, 2005 (edited) Which doesn't change the fact I'm not about to try installing MT for myself. So If anybody would like to make some extra money, drop me a line with terms and we'll see what we can work out. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Um, I don't mean to be a jerk or anything, but offering to pay someone who is not employed by Six Apart to install MT for you is expressly against the license you must agree to when downloading Movable Type. So, basically, what you are asking for is illegal. I'm really surprised that nobody else on this forum has pointed this out to you. Sorry. There are other content magagement systems available that are much easier to install if you are unable to install MT yourself, but paying someone to install MT for you is a no-no. Edited March 1, 2005 by lilirose Quote
TCH-Tim Posted March 1, 2005 Posted March 1, 2005 (edited) offering to pay someone who is not employed by Six Apart to install MT for you is expressly against the license you must agree to when downloading Movable Type. I can't find this part in the agreement. It says you can't sell the software, but I don't see anything about selling one's services to install the software. Edited March 1, 2005 by timhodge Quote
TweezerMan Posted March 2, 2005 Posted March 2, 2005 Um, I don't mean to be a jerk or anything, but offering to pay someone who is not employed by Six Apart to install MT for you is expressly against the license you must agree to when downloading Movable Type. So, basically, what you are asking for is illegal. I'm really surprised that nobody else on this forum has pointed this out to you. Sorry. There are other content magagement systems available that are much easier to install if you are unable to install MT yourself, but paying someone to install MT for you is a no-no. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There was a grain of truth to this prior to May, 2004, but since that time, it is no longer true at all. Before the release of MT3 in May, 2004, the previous licenses provided with MT did have a section in them which read: Prohibited uses include, without limitation, using the Software on commercial websites; providing, or offering to provide, any service using the Software; using the Software to provide web design or other services to commercial and non-commercial websites; receiving compensation from others for copies or modified copies of the Software; hosting, or offering to host, the Software, on any basis; receiving compensation for any service that uses the Software, including support services. That last clause was interpreted by Six Apart to prohibit anyone outside of Six Apart from charging any fee to perform a Movable Type install. Although many people thought the license restriction was unfair or unreasonable, they complied with it. I researched the legality of a number of clauses in the prior MT licenses (including the clause mentioned above) back in 2003, and concluded that certain license terms were indeed illegal as they violated both U.S. copyright law and California state law. Illegal license terms (like the one above) are unenforceable. (You can read the details about how and why they were illegal on my weblog.) I sent my findings to Six Apart. They agreed my findings appeared to be valid, and began working to create new licenses for MT. The new licenses were released with the debut of MT3 in May, 2004. The terms that I found to be illegal in the old licenses are not present in the current MT licenses. Bottom line: If you are under an MT license issued prior to May, 2004, the prohibition against charging a fee to install Movable Type is illegal and unenforceable, and you can ignore it. If you are under an MT license issued since May, 2004, there is no such prohibition in the license. Either way, you are free to charge for installing MT for someone else. Quote
lilirose Posted March 2, 2005 Posted March 2, 2005 It's almost 2 AM here and I'm having trouble digging through the MT TOS, which is written in legalese, of course- to find the exact clause that prohibits it. I'm a paid user of MT, so I opened a ticket with their tech support to ask about it. I'll post back here as soon as I get a response from them. Quote
TweezerMan Posted March 2, 2005 Posted March 2, 2005 From the Movable Type FAQ: Q: I want to charge for installations. Is this allowed?A: You may charge for installation of Movable Type for any user who has a properly licensed copy of Movable Type. “Properly licensed” is defined as any legitimate copy of the software downloaded from our website and used in accordance with the terms of the license associated with that download. Quote
lilirose Posted March 2, 2005 Posted March 2, 2005 Thank you, David. I believe this a recent policy change. I apreciate being updated, and I apologize for passing on less-than-current information. BTW, since we have this cleared up, my husband says that he would be more than happy to do the installation for you for a small fee, if nobody else has offered. Quote
mythusmage Posted March 15, 2005 Author Posted March 15, 2005 Been awhile, hasn't it? Movable Type was installed (Thank you, Tim) and I've been busy working on and with it. My thanks to all who responded. Right now I'm looking for plugins to add, and trying to find information on Cron Jobs. I'm getting the impression some people have a hard time explaining things. "How do I tie my shoes?" Hope you're all doing well. Quote
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