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Hello Thanks for the responses. I checked out the CMS site. There's a bunch there. Too many really to know where to start. I looked at the Drupal demo. It didn't seem overly complex but that may be ignorance talking. I'll do as suggested and see what I can do with the scripts included in Fantastico. I've read that the scripts are often older versions of ones now available, can scripts normally be updated or would the older version have to be removed to install the newer? thanks again

Thanks for responding. I haven't looked on my TCH cpanel in quite a while, but I thought Fantastico wasn't included because of potential problems it causes? Thanks for the link, I'll check it out. If you or anyone has a preferred CMS, I'd appreciate knowig which. I'm not very tech savvy yet, so one that isn't overly complex but that also has advanced features when I'm ready for them. Thanks

Hello I'm looking to build a community type site for this local area. I'd like to give people the ability to create their own blog, have rss feeds for local news, have a classifieds section, local events, info on local schools/colleges, some games such as sudoku, etc, maybe have a fantasy football league, a section for parents, and other things that seem like a good idea. To create such a site, would it be best to start with a CMS? If so, what would be best suited for this? I've seen Drupal recommended on here a while back but I don't know for what website type. I'm a novice to website creation and script installation. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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Hello I have no plans to disregard everyone's advice and the rules. I'm just trying to inform myself on different possibilities and I've seen somewhere that having your own email service would be a way to build a mailing list. Does anyone know of a service that offers an email service from their own servers that you can brand as your own and somehow incorporate into your own site? Someone that has a set up worthy of stopping most spammers? This may be a stupid question with no benefit to begin with, but it doesn't hurt to ask I guess. Thanks

Hello Ok, I see that such a thing is banned on a shared server and dangerous to have. Out of curiousity, couldn't a limit be placed on the amount an account could send in a given time period, and in case they just kept opening new accounts to send more, a limit on the # of accounts opened with each ip address? Is there such a thing as an outgoing spam filter? If so, could spammers easily work around it? So, even the big companies such as Yahoo have trouble preventing spammers from using their email systems to send a bunch of spam? Thanks

Hello Does anyone have a website that offers an email service? Would that be a complex and expensive thing to set up? I'm guessing the bandwidth usage could shoot up quick, but it would be easy for a capable person to lower the storage amount for each account, correct? Would the necessary spam filters come with such a script/program? Does anyone have any suggestions where to get information about such a service, or anything else that would be useful to know? Thanks in advance for any replies

Hello When is it that you need a CMS? For very comprehensive sites? Wouldn't Cpanel be considered a CMS, at least a basic one? Would a CMS such as Drupal be installed inside the Cpanel? If a particular CMSdoesn't offer a certain feature, is there still a way to have the feature on your site by installing it seperately? I've seen Drupal recommended on the forum a few times and I went to the CMS comparison site and noticed another CMS that was the most popular on the site and compared the features to Drupal, which the other had more features but used perl rather than php. I'm sure it depends on what you need for your site as to which CMS is the best for someone, the same with the scripting language(?) used, but could someone give me an idea of the benefits of php over perl or vice versa? I'm just now starting to learn basic php, I think perl is a bit harder to learn at first. Is that correct? Thanks in advance for any replies

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To be sure that a dynamic link was being followed, picked, whatever, by the spiders, I could check the backlinks for a page after it's been crawled, correct? The Google bot doesn't count links that are below a PR 3, correct? So I'd have to get my pages up to a PR 3? Is there another service or site that shows backlinks to a page regardless of PR? Thanks again

Hello Ok, could you then edit a site with FrontPage that created with straight html code or some other editor? So, since php scripts are server side things(includes maybe?) they are not affected by FrontPage? As long as the .php extension is added on the end of the proper pages? Could you tell me what qualifies something as a FrontPage "include" page or a php "include" page? The extension on the end? Or the code included in the page? So, my only concern would be to change FrontPage includes with php includes and I should be fine? Has anyone had any experience with First Page 2000? Would it be "cleaner" as far as the coding goes? Would there be any less concern for a beginner with the php/Frontpage compatabilty (which, apparently isn't really a concern to experienced coders such as yourselves). Again, thanks again for responding

Hello I've heard that Frontpage adds a lot of unnecessary code into pages created with it. Is there such a thing as a excess code stripper that would allow a site created in Frontpage to be able to be dealt with the same as a site created all in html code by hand? Also, php scripts don't work with Frontpage created sites, correct? That's one reason I asked this question, to see if there was a way to make them work together easily. I guess it would be better to just start with a different html editor in the first place? Thanks

Hello If the link didn't look dynamic, does that mean it would't appear dynamic to human eyes or to the spider bots as well? I'd just like to be sure that the spiders could follow it so I'd get credit for the link as far as backlinks to other pages within the site, etc. I'd love any help with a RewriteRule, but as of now, it'd be over my head. The videos should be here soon. I'm going to look at them and decide if I should just pay someone to create/modify scripts when I can afford to, or try my hand doing it. Thanks

Hello This is a bit off topic, but I recall in the Stomping the Search Engines course, it mentioned that pages that have a question mark in them were dynamically generated. Being as such, they wouldn't be spidered because they wouldn't be available when the spider visits the site. Is this true? The fact that a site is templated doesn't have anything to do with dynamically created content, correct? Unless it the content being created, not the header and footer? Thanks

Hello Thanks for the replies. I'm just starting to get into php, just bought a few videos about it which are on their way. Thanks for the script code to use, this is great place for help and information.

Hello I haven't looked as hard as I should before posting this, but I've posted it in case I can't find an answer here in the previous forum threads(?). I've seen that you can have a templated website, I believe using a php script. Is this a simple set up? With templated website, if you make a change to the index page, it will change all pages correspondingly, correct? Can this also be done with style sheets? I've also heard in Stomping The Search Engines, you can have rss feeds and have the articles automatically put on a new page on your site, so you can build many pages quickly and get a higher page rank because each page that is created will have the links to the home page, site map, etc. Has anyone done this? Would it be worth it, or would the bandwidth used get out of control? Thanks in advance for any replies, I'll keep looking.

Hello Ok, to both Bruce and Steve, both of those links you provided in the last couple of posts would be used for a mailto: type of set up, correct? There's no need to mask your email address if I were to use a form to collect email addresses, correct? Bruce, on the live chatting thing, I meant , do you or other techs sometimes offer live support, chatting or whatever WHILE a person is doing something themselves for the first time? I don't know if I'm making too big an issue out of how information iscollected from a website visitor, it just seems that every detail matters. Thanks again for answering my questions.

Wow, I didn't know you were so quick to respond on here. So you recommend against mailto:? Just for how your particular website is set up or for any other reason? Ok, I'll need to look up obfuscate, but, I guess that means it would make my email unavailable to Spam bots? Thanks for the link for Ultimate form Mailer. I suppose your processing scripts are tailored to your particular site, eh? Do you offer one on one live chatting, say maybe as I'm doing something for the first time as I'm doing it? For a fee? I'm going to go ahead and buy a hosting plan now and just learn on the fly. Thanks again

Hello Ok, yes I think I'd rather have it to where the visitor fills out the information for their email address because I think some visitors may not use the email program like Outlook on their computer and they might be confused and just decide not to follow through. Do you have an opinion on this? Also, I suppose Ultimate form mailer is available at Hotscripts? Just in case I went with mailto: if the link a visitor clicked on just said something like "contact us" instead of my actual email address, would the Spam bots still pick up my email address? Thanks again

Wow, Thanks again for replying. It was up before this ancient computer could even show me my question posted.

Ok, thank you for replying. cpanel automatically updates itself when a newer version comes out, correct? But the individual componentson cpanel do not? So the thing to do would be to check the version of whatever you want to run or use(whatever)(like OScommerce) on cpanel against the newest version of what is on the OScommerce website? Thanks in advance for any reply. Sory if this is a stupid or redundant question.

"TCH servers can and do run OSCommerce. It can be installed from CPanel, but I suspect you will probably want to install OSCommerce yourself." Hello Could you please explain why someone would want to install OSCommerce themselves, rather than through Cpanel? Because they already have it up and going? Or is it just easier to do yourself instead of through Cpanel? Thanks

"Spam Assassin nor Box Trapper will protect your site if you have a contact form script that can be compromised. There has been plenty of talk on the forums of insecure form scripts. If your script will allow an email header injection then people can send SPAM through it. Spam Assassin will only block mail coming to your domain not mail going out." Hello This may be a stupid question, but what would be the remedy to this situation? Make sure you get a more secure form script? What exactly is email header injection, is that allowing the user to input the email address into the form rather than have the email script automatically start up the users email program, such as Outlook Express. I ask about email header injection because, say I have a link for a website visitor to send me an email on my website. It now would make their Outlook program start up, I guess with Windows users anyway? I'd rather just let the user fill out the email they want the response sent to because I don't use Outlook and it kinda confused me when I'd click on a link to send an email to someone on a website and my Outlook would start up. I'd just close it and copy the email address and use my Yahoo email to send the question if I bothered with it that much. So, having it set up to where they fill out their email address, would this be an example of an insecure script like you're referring to? Would it just be asking for alot of spam or other problems? Would it be stupid to set it up like I'd like, where the user fills in their email address they want the reply sent to. Say, with an opt in newsletter, make it double opt in to where when they would fill out their email address they'd then get an email to confirm they signed up for the newsletter in the first place. I believe You had recommended Hotscripts.com to me as a place to get scripts in my introductory forum post, would they have as secure a script as any for this, or does the Cpanel already have something that would take care of this?