eloieli

I ahve two starter hosting packages and I have noticed dome odd differences between them. For example one has "Submit Support Request" "Image Mapper" "Box Trapper" and "Leech Protect" but doesn't have an "SSL manager". The other has the "SSL manager" but not the others. Also, in the scripts library one has a lot more scripts that the other. Given that I am paying the same for each account, and that the accounts ostensibly are the same service, shouldn't I have the same options in each account?

(bounces up and down) Yay!!! You're a genius. I've been staring this problem in the face for a while now. Thanks for the tip. Heh - typically with computing problems can seem intractable when you don't know the solution, and then when you do know the solution you fell like kicking yourself.

Err - is a virtual account shared hosting or something else?

Don't worry, I justy found the answer. No I can't host two domains on one acount. *sigh*

Is it possible to change the prot that Cpanel uses. Mine is currently using 2083 and due to problems at my end I can't access that port and the sys admin can't give me access to it. But, the sysadmin uses cpanel on 2082. So is it possible to have my port changed from 2083 to 2082?

This isn't really a presales question as I allready have a Toctalchoice account, but I can't decided where the question *should* go. It's a simple question: Can I host more than one domain on my account. I have a starter plan and I have two domains. I don't just want to park the domains, I want to host two seperate domains.

But you are speaking for the point of view of someone who is fairly computer savvy. When I came to all this I would have been lost trying to install these manually. As for not learning anything, I learnt a great deal installing and using it through fantastico. It also enabled me to focus on what I wanted, a production site working quickly. Now that I better understand the principles and structure behind it I have treid manual installs and upgrades and am working on customisation. But that too most of year slowly tinker and playing to learn about different bits of it. Remember not everone comes to this with a grewat deal of experience and this is a great way to support people without supporting them. As you offer nothing like this I'd ecpect TCH to help support me in working with this stuff if I was new to it all. If you offer it you explicitly absolve yourself of support and make it less likely that you'll need it as the process is simpler for those new to it. Matt

I have used fantastico extensively with a couple of hosts now and have found it to be very useful. All the scripts have messages saying that they are not supported by the hosts and I have respected that. I found it was very useful when I was trialling different CMS systems for my bblog site. It gave me lots of options until I finally settled on one I like. I have also noticed that it tends to be about 6 months behind major releases, which seems prudent to ensure they are stable and secure. It seems to me that it is *less* of a security risk because it waits for security problems to be ironed out. The logic of old software=security risk just doesn't follow. A version that's had more than a year in production wiht numerous patches and updates is *less* likely (in general, there are obvious exceptions) to have major security holes as they'll have been noticed and fixed, just look at phpbb's latest release - it's to fix security holes (in part). In my experience most applications tend to get more secure with life (I work as a software tester) and less buggy as the bugs are identified and patched. Obviously there are almost no bug free, perfectly secure applicatiosn, but the general principle holds true. When a major release is made, with big updates to structure and functionality, a whole *new* set of bugs and security holes is generally introduced with them. So it seems safer to me to wait until the application has been in production some time before upgrading the scripts. I upgraded as soon as Drupal 4.5 came out. And then had to upgrade to Drupal 4.5.1 to deal with security issues. This is true. However for a newbie to do this it requires a very steep learning curve. I did several installs od drupal to learn how it worked and see how it looked when it was actually running before I finally started manually installing it. Now, a year later I am confident enough to manually install most of these types of applications, but I'd still prefer Fantastico for it's ease of use and simplicity. Why spend three hours doing what you can do in three clicks? Anyway. Obviously Total Choice Hosting isn't planning on using this useful piece of software, which is disappointing but that's life. I would encourage you (TCH) to survey users (both those who have used it and those that haven't) though to see what opinion is. I knopw such surveys don't make policy, but it would give you an idea if people wanted it or not. Matt

The other hosting companies I have been with have had either Fantastico or Installatron available through CPanel. Is there any reason why Total Choice doesn't do thesame. They are excellent applications and really useful for people new to website development (and for people not so new).