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Yep, i followed those instructions and then found much more complete instructions in the mailman faq... i posted a link to the faq in this forum. Anyway, that's where it told me to customize the html templates so that when a user goes to subscription options, you can leave out certain things like digest mode and posting instructions (especially that) which you want to not have in an announcement only list. It's not essential, I suppose, but could cause some user frustration. You mean it's shared by the entire server (all domains on the machine)? So there is no mailman directory for individual accounts at all? Thanks Skye

is the search engine problem still a factor if all of your content pages that are displayed inside the iframe are linked from outside the iframe in the main document (ie, links on the main page which target the iframe -- so technically there's a direct link to the subpages)... thx skye

If I subscribe to my list, then click on the confirmation link which takes me to the page to confirm or cancel the subscription, confirm works fine... However if I hit cancel subscription, i get the following error: >Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py", line 114, in main subscription_cancel(mlist, doc, cookie) File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py", line 312, in subscription_cancel userdesc = mlist.pend_confirm(cookie)[1] File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Pending.py", line 141, in pend_confirm assert self.Locked() AssertionError Python information: Variable Value sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Jan 30 2003, 21:26:22) [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-112)] sys.executable /usr/bin/python2 sys.prefix /usr sys.exec_prefix /usr sys.path /usr sys.platform linux2 Environment variables: Variable Value HTTP_ACCEPT */* CONTENT_TYPE application/x-www-form-urlencoded HTTP_REFERER http://thebandweather.com/mailman/confirm/weathermail_thebandweather.com/2bd3aace462b053ba046b2fc15c6486e2dccf931 SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.31 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.3.8 FrontPage/5.0.2.2634a mod_ssl/2.8.18 OpenSSL/0.9.6b PYTHONPATH /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/cgi-bin/confirm SERVER_ADMIN webmaster@thebandweather.com SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/confirm REQUEST_METHOD POST HTTP_HOST thebandweather.com PATH_INFO /weathermail_thebandweather.com SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 QUERY_STRING REQUEST_URI /mailman/confirm/weathermail_thebandweather.com CONTENT_LENGTH 107 HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/125.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/125.8 HTTP_CONNECTION close HTTP_COOKIE weathermail_thebandweather.com+admin= SERVER_NAME thebandweather.com REMOTE_ADDR 216.231.36.88 REMOTE_PORT 62958 HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE en-us, ja;q=0.33, en;q=0.67 PATH_TRANSLATED /home/weather/public_html/weathermail_thebandweather.com SERVER_PORT 80 GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip, deflate;q=1.0, identity;q=0.5, *;q=0 SERVER_ADDR 209.152.171.64 DOCUMENT_ROOT /home/weather/public_html dunno if this is any help to you guys, just thought i'd share. skye

i am currently following instructions on how to create an announcment only mailing list using mailman, however i can't seem to track down where mailman's files are located on the server. here's the instructions: > In Mailman 2.1.x you can customize the welcome message. Create a directory lists/<yourlist>/en (assuming English :) and copy templates/subscribeack.txt to this directory. Then edit this file for your specific wording. Mailman will use this specialized template for the English welcome messages. i don't see any mailman directory where i would be able to find templates and such anywhere on my server... thanks skye

hi, i installed bBlog, and one of the final steps is to change the config.php back so that it is not writable by the server. does this mean i should set it to 644? 755 is for directories, right? thanks skye

great -- that did it! thanks so much. btw, is that because it's a domain within a reseller account so you have to include the domain in the list name? thanks skye

raul - sorry, i didn't see the edit button (duh) -- i reported the thread and told whomever to delete it as i had reposted it. sorry for the double post. as for the problem, i fixed it! if anyone is curious, i added this to the img tag and the scrollbars went away in Windows IE: >hspace="0" vspace="0" align="top" that's it! skye

welp, after playing with it more i am now realizing it's not the form itself that is breaking apart the table... it's something else in windows ie that doesn't play nice. it renders fine in the other browsers i've tested, but for some reason that row in windows ie is getting stretched out no matter what i try. i've had problems similar to this one before, and it's usually been fixed by hours of playing with td alignment and other crap, but so far no help... oh well. perhaps it'll snap back into place by itself somehow. or maybe i can tell the users not to use windows ie (ya right). skye

i am setting up a simple form to subscribe to a mailing list, which i've already created... yet when i submit, it gives me an error. here's the form: >form action="/mailman/subscribe/weathermail" method="post" name="mailist" target="maincontent" here's the error: >Error No such list weathermail the domain is thebandweather.com is it my form or path or did i leave something crucial out? thanks! skye

the first rev had no margins/etc set. i think adding them is what got rid of the scrolls in the two mac browsers (safari/ie)... now i just gotta get them gone in windows ie. where would i stick height=90% ? thx skye

k, so i have an iframe in the center of my design where content for the subpages show up when the user clicks on targeted links. on the first page, i need it to look like there is no frame there, so there is a graphic that is exactly the size of the iframe that fits the layout of the rest of the site. basically i need to make sure no scrollbars show up on this page, but i can't disable them entirely on the iframe because some of the content pages need vertical scrolling. i have set margins/etc on the page with the perfectly sized image so that in Safari and IE on the Mac (at least), there are no scrollbars. IE on Windows, however, puts scrollbars there. I want it to _not_ do that. here's my disheveled site in whatever current form it's in... www.thebandweather.com/index2.html and here's the css for the page inside the iframe with the graphic (which is the same size as the iframe): >.mainimg { position: absolute; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: none; margin: 0; } body { margin: 0; } and in the body: bgcolor="white" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0"> then img src="img/req/homegraphic.jpg" width="508" height="264" style="mainimg" any ideas? thanks! skye

yep, tried that (in the TD tag, right?)... actually i think i stuck that about everywhere i could. doesn't work... it's weird... it's like IE adds gravity to the form so it sinks like a rock no matter what html/css i put in. i just thought of another possibility, a stupid little nested table (i know, i know...) inside that cell that might keep it afloat... i'll have to mess with that. thanks skye

ok, so i have an iframe in the center of my design where content for the subpages show up when the user clicks on targeted links. on the first page, i need it to look like there is no frame there, so there is a graphic that is exactly the size of the iframe that fits the layout of the rest of the site. basically i need to make sure no scrollbars show up on this page, but i can't disable them entirely on the iframe because some of the content pages need vertical scrolling. i have set margins/etc on the page with the perfectly sized image so that in Safari and IE on the Mac (at least), there are no scrollbars. IE on Windows, however, puts scrollbars there. I want it to _not_ do that. here's my disheveled site in whatever current form it's in... www.thebandweather.com/index2.html and here's the css for the page inside the iframe with the graphic (which is the same size as the iframe): >.mainimg { position: absolute; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: none; margin: 0; } body { margin: 0; } and in the body: <body bgcolor="white" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0"> <img src="img/req/homegraphic.jpg" width="508" height="264" style="mainimg"> Edit by TCH-Raul: There's an Edit button above your posts, you can use it to correct mistakes instead of posting a new message to the thread. I merged the two pieces of code for you

eh.. i suppose.. it's kind of a mess right now, i'm simultaneously working on several things that are partially implemented. http://www.thebandweather.com/index2.html it's the mailing list thing in the lower left. in the current state it's in right now, i'm not sure how it displays on PCs, but i've got it looking pretty solid in safari and IE in OSX. i realize i am going to get a pile of crap for doing such a table-dependant site, however i did not _design_ the front end for once and was forced to make a non-webdesigner's layout work. thanks skye

It's just a simple input text field and a button enclosed in a form. IE sticks the form at the bottom of the cell. I want it to sit in the vertical middle, like it's supposed to. I've tried all sorts of css and html on the form, the table cell, and so forth, and nothing works like it's supposed to. The closest I've gotten is by styling the form with a margin, which pushes it up from the bottom of the cell. However, if i go more than a few pixels, it stretches the cell out, which tears apart the table. Not nice! Any quick fixes to this? Thanks Skye

Hi, I am installing some PHP scripts, and by chance I just figured out why some weren't working... I had to add this line to my root folder's .htaccess: >AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .html ... which i now understand allows the webserver to parse the HTML files for embedded PHP scripts. Now my script works. Just want to check, however -- did I go about this the right way? Is there a better/safer/whatever way to do this? There was mention that this slows down the server, as it now takes time to parse every file for PHP whether it's there or not. Is this true? Thanks Skye

hi, i am setting up a form to submit a subscription to a mailman list, and i need to know the correct path to mailman. <FORM Method=POST ACTION="<SERVER>/mailman/subscribe/<LISTNAME>"><br> what server is it on? i don't insert my domain there, do i? thanks skye

... it solved several questions I couldn't find answers to elsewhere: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

thanks, i'll check it out. skye

Don, Thanks... I think I got buried in the links to the mailman docs and never saw that last link there... Duh. Just what I was looking for! Skye

Hi, This is probably very simple, but I went through all the mailman options and didn't see the options i was looking for. Is it possible for me to set up a mailing list in which only one person (or a few people) can post announcements to whoever is subscribed to the mailing list -- but not allow any posts from the subscribers? Basically just an annoucement list. I see how to customize the html of the listinfo page so that I can leave out instructions on how to send a message to the list, and I know I can also remove that info from the footer of the list messages. I thought I could set up an auto-responder with a discard for any incoming messages, but then realized it would reject those posted by the people sending the announcements. Can I use the emergency moderation feature? If so, will the moderator(s) have to go in and approve whatever they've posted before it's sent out? AND -- (there's always more) -- on a second note, I need to set up a simple 'join mailing list' form on their page -- should i just do a link to the listinfo page where they can subscribe, or could i alternately use a text field and submit their email address to the list somehow? (i'm not positive i know how to do that, but i know you can... not mailto: but another way to send an email directly to the list with the content 'subscribe foo@bar.com' or whatever...) Thanks! Skye

Hi, I am trying to find a very simple yet customizable list style calendar, preferably PHP based (though it doesn't have to be)... It's for a band site, they want a concert calendar that they can easily update, either via email or a webform of some sort. It needs the following: - easily updated - automatically roll off past dates - customizable with CSS or something similar - has to fit in a small iframe, so no bloated graphical crap -- simple table layout is perfect Basically I need something similar to this (which is theirs and not public domain): hostbaby.com/learn/concertcalendar So far all I can find are bloated grid-style calendars. I know there's one out there somewhere, but if anyone knows off hand, it would save me a buncha time! Oh, and i found a tutorial on how to insert a php code that will read from a directory of txt files and display them in order by date, scrolling past ones off -- however it doesn't appear that it would be easy for the band to submit events -- unless it would be possible to set up a web form of some sort that writes the text files that are read by the other script? I also don't see how it would easy to format the text and such after it's entered. The tutorial is here: http://www.webdesigns1.com/php/tutorial.php Any input on this is much appreciated! I am rather new to scripting and backend stuff, and am quickly trying to learn a dozen things to get this project done. Thanks Skye

Hi, I am trying to set up a simple mailing list for a site I am building, basically just for outgoing news to whoever subscribes via the site. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I keep trying to add a new mailing list from the 'mail' section of cpanel. i enter the name of the list and a password, and it says a list has been created. then i go back, and it says there are no active lists. however, for some reason it sets up a forward (i think it's owner-listname@ > listname-admin@) or something that I didn't configure. I can't find anything in the help that's of use. If I try going to: http://name.of.listserver/mailman/admin/YourListName ... I get this: <p><h3>We're sorry, we hit a bug!</h3> <p>If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! <h4>Traceback:</h4><p><pre> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/driver", line 115, in print_traceback from Mailman.mm_cfg import VERSION ImportError: No module named mm_cfg ...and it goes on and on. Any ideas? I need to get this set up soon for my client. Skye

Right, I mean besides that. Otherwise, if there is no advantage to a reseller package as far as my requiresments above go, I think they'd prefer to have individual hosting packages (ie the individual bands would be responsible for their own hosting/billing/etc)... Regardless, they would all be hosted on TCH. Mainly I need to know if a reseller setup vs individual hosting packages would influence my ability to implement any of the above (sharing databases/etc) or if it even matters. Thanks Skye

Oh yeah, and also, one feature they offered that I am trying to find a substitute for, is a concert calendar. Basically it's a simple db-driven script that displays all upcoming events/shows and automatically bumps off past dates. I don't know if it's a publicly available script, or something custom, but if I go with TCH instead of the other host, I am responsible for coming up with a suitable replacement. Any ideas? thx again skye