gacain Posted February 27, 2003 Posted February 27, 2003 Greetings! If a person sets up a new FTP accound, for example "stuff", and sets a password, say "password", a directory is created in public_html called "stuff", and that directory can be accessed with an FTP client with the user name "stuff@****" with the password "password." I've done this, it works perfectly. But shouldn't there be a way for a visitor to access this area through either IE or Windows Explorer too? I've tried logging in with these programs and can't seem to make it work. It seems to me the url in IE should be "ftp://stuff@****:password@****/files". I've tried countless variations on this and encounter errors or non-connections every time. What am I missing here? Thanks for any assistance. Greg Quote
twowheels Posted February 27, 2003 Posted February 27, 2003 I was working on this recenlty myself... what I concluded (though I might be wrong), is that the FTP client must support explicit encrypted FTP connections, which IE doesn't. Standard FTP connections can sign in, but can't get a directory listing, thus IE hangs while looking for the file list. Mozilla can display the file list, but doesn't appear to have a way to upload files to an FTP site. Quote
Lianna Posted February 27, 2003 Posted February 27, 2003 Actually, I think it's the two @ signs in the string. Sends IE for a ride to nowhere. Take advantage of the IE Login box that pops and it works everytime. ftp://****/files Pops a login box that you'd then populate with Username = stuff@**** Password = password Bang, you're in. Li Quote
twowheels Posted February 27, 2003 Posted February 27, 2003 That's odd... at home (Win XP, no service packs) I can't get in no matter what. Here at work (Win XP, SP 1) I had to use: ftp://username@host.com/ and then just put my username (without @domain) and password in the box and it worked. Odd. The way you suggested didn't pop up the box, it just put me in as anon. It would probably work if anon access was turned off. Quote
gacain Posted February 27, 2003 Author Posted February 27, 2003 Tried ftp://****/files - I get the 'page cannot be displayed page'. Any other ideas? Thanks. Greg Quote
twowheels Posted February 27, 2003 Posted February 27, 2003 Did you try the one that I suggested? ftp://username@domain.com/ which will then pop up the sign in dialog that was mentioned. /files doesn't work for me either. Quote
gacain Posted February 27, 2003 Author Posted February 27, 2003 You know, I've tried just about every possible iteration/combination there is. This is the best I get: FTP root at my domain.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 02/19/2003 10:55PM Directory bin 02/19/2003 10:53PM Directory etc 02/19/2003 10:53PM Directory lib 02/19/2003 11:05PM Directory mail 08/22/2001 12:00AM Directory pub These don't correspond to anything on my domain, and it doesn't pop up any sort of login to get here. Greg - who is completely stumped. Quote
twowheels Posted February 27, 2003 Posted February 27, 2003 The directories that you show are the ones for the anonymous ftp user. Maybe you could try turning off anonymous ftp access in your cpanel and see if that works... on the cpanel, top right box is "ftp", 2nd option is "anonymous setup", uncheck "allow anonymous access" Quote
gacain Posted February 27, 2003 Author Posted February 27, 2003 Already tried that! Actually, that was the first FTP related thing I did when I signed up. I really like this service and the cpanel, by the way. Greg Quote
twowheels Posted February 27, 2003 Posted February 27, 2003 Do you, by chance, have access to another computer? As I mentioned, at home w/ Win XP (no service packs installed) I cannot access my files with IE either. Yes, XP (service pack 1) does work. There were probably some changes to Internet Explorer during that time. Quote
twowheels Posted February 27, 2003 Posted February 27, 2003 I think I might have found an answer for you! Click on tools, internet options, advanced tab, and scroll down to the bottom of the HTTP section to find a checkbox that says: Use Passive FTP. Here's what the "What's this" box says... Specifies to use passive FTP, which does not require your (local) machine to know its Internet IP address. Some network configurations will only work with passive mode turned on, while others will only work with passive mode turned off. This feature allows you to select which mode to use for compatibility with your network settings. Most network configurations will support both modes. The passive FTP mode is considered more secure. Quote
shammer Posted February 28, 2003 Posted February 28, 2003 I sometimes have problems using IE on FTP sites unless I have "Enable Folder View For FTP Sites" unchecked in tools-internet options-advanced. Quote
gacain Posted February 28, 2003 Author Posted February 28, 2003 Ok... First, thanks to all of you for your assistance. I'm using IE 6 SP1. I found no 'Passive FTP' setting in the advanced options section. I DID, however, get the thing to work by turning OFF the folder view. Strangely enough, when I was finally able to log on using that account and password, it was a 'folder view' that I got. Incidentally, you may be interested to know that Opera has no problem with this - it works just as it should. Thanks again to all of you for your kind assistance. Greg Quote
curtis Posted February 28, 2003 Posted February 28, 2003 I just tried IE using ftp://username:password@mysite.com/public_html/myfile/ and had no problems. I copied and pasted 2 files and an image to my site. curtis Quote
Lianna Posted February 28, 2003 Posted February 28, 2003 I have a ftp user named lianna. I have an IE shortcut on my desktop to: ftp://lianna:mypassword@stoverdatasystems.com/ It takes me straight to the public_html/lianna/directory. Li Quote
KevinW Posted February 28, 2003 Posted February 28, 2003 Unless I'm mistaken, enabling/disabling folder view in IE *is* how you turn on or off passive FTP -kw Quote
gacain Posted February 28, 2003 Author Posted February 28, 2003 Well, I'm really not sure why it's not working for me the same way it is for Li and Curtis. When I go to ftp://myfiles:mypassword@****, I wind up with ftp://****/ in the address bar, **** listed as the server and myfiles listed as the user name in IE. I then right-click in the window and select login as. The defaul there is, sure enough, the user name myfiles and no password listed. If I enter myfiles@**** and the password I get to the right folder. Interestingly, the address bar says I'm at ftp://****@****, Server: **** and User Name myfiles@****. At least I AM getting to the proper place now, and I am able to upload and download files, but it seems like something must still be wrong because neither Curtis' nor Li's suggestions are working in this situation. If anyone has any other suggestions, it would be great to hear them. Thanks again. Greg Quote
shammer Posted February 28, 2003 Posted February 28, 2003 Nope, further down the list of advanced options there is one for turning on passive ftp "for firewalls and dsl users" so I don't think they are the same thing. Quote
KevinW Posted February 28, 2003 Posted February 28, 2003 you are correct, shammer, IE does have a separate option for enabling/disabling passive fTP. I should have checked first. Must be getting old! -kw Quote
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