Ftp Simultaneous Logins

[charp]

I just started an account with TCH for a class I teach in a public high school. The class is all about learning how to make web pages. For this class of 31 students, I created 31 FTP accounts, each pointing to a different sub-directory. The problem is that we seem to be restricted to 3 login from a single IP address. Since our school uses NAT, all 31 students appear to be FTPing from the same address.

 

Is there any way for me to work around this restriction? Can TCH allow more login sessions to our account from our IP address? Any ideas at all? It's going to be real problem for my class if we have to take turns FTPing in groups of 3, so any and all ideas/suggestions/help will be appreciated.

 

Thanks!

[borfast]

Charp, I totally understand your problem but since I'm only a forum moderator, there's not much I can do except welcoming you to the family.

 

You could also submit a help desk ticket (link at the top of the forum pages) and see what the techs have to say about it.

[TCH-Don]

Welcome to the Family Charp

 

and your new home!

 

We really are like family here.

So if you need anything,

just ask your new family!

We love to help

[charp]

Thanks for the warm welcome!

 

I just thought I might get a feel for what's possible. Guess I'll just go with the help desk ticket.

 

Thanks also for the advice.

[TCH-Rob]

Welcome to the family.

 

I am like the others here but I am going to guess not. I am thinking it is to prevent one single user from using up all resources as some FTP programs can make multiple virtual connections. I have no idea the impact of 31 people accessing it all at once even if it is only a file or two. The helpdesk should be able to give a definitave answer.

[borfast]

Charp, I'd suggest you to propose your school to get a dedicated server. That way you could do whatever you'd want and it would be a great experience, since you could use it not just for teaching how to make a web page but also for other stuff.

[TCH-Bruce]

Welcome to the family, Charp!

 

Nothing more to offer than what's already been said.

[TCH-Don]

Nice idea for a school, with their own server

everyone could have their own e-mail

A school forum, even if only staff could post, could be helpful.

Lots of possibilities.

[Madmanmcp]

Yes a dedicated server would be nice but I believe it will be way out their price range. I'll bet this is just a teacher who decided to go out on their own and purchased an account out of their own money and is trying to give the kids a little more than what the school had to offer.

 

They probably can't afford to purchase a dedicated server account and I know the school will not have the funds for it.

[TCH-Don]

Good point.

Its too bad the voters can't see that the kids in school today will be running the country when they are older or retired.

But that another topic

 

hopfully there is a solution for the kids.

[charp]

My district does have it's own web server that hosts all but two of the school web sites -- the two high schools. The problems with the district server: no features such as PHP, mySQL, CGI-BIN, etc. It's straight HTML and what ever the browser will support. Hardly worth using -- and I don't. I'll try not to launch into my usual diatribe on this subject, but Madmanmcp is right about the price issue. For what is costs to buy and support a web server, schools would be better served to out source their web hosting needs. The 10 elementary schools in my District could host all of their sites with TCH's silver plan at $55 per year. Now go figure how many years at that price it would take to buy a basic web box, and then figure in the cost of the employee that must maintain it. Do school districts do this? In my experience, no. Instead, they host their own web servers and end up wasting valuable funds that could be better spent on personnel to fix the computers in classrooms that sit idle because there's a shortage of manpower.

 

A dedicated server, in my opinion, would be an awesome solution. Less than $1,000 per year total costs = less than $70 per year per school for my district. But it only makes sense if the entire district buys in. At this point in time, our IS department is deeply invested in having all the web services in house. My going to an outside source for web hosting is just barely tolerated and only because our site uses PHP, mySQL and CGIs, which the district can't support. Moreover, our associated student body (ASB) pays for the hosting from their own funding source. We're such rebels.

 

At any rate, thanks again for the warm welcomes and great suggestions. I feel I made the right decision in choosing TCH.