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Wow. Talk about protectionist policies. Did you have to remove the quotes, too? Anyway, suffice to say that there are people out there in the world who claim to have the solution I'm looking for: a way to securely receive and temporarily store numbers. The questions remain: are people who allow such a service dangerously unsafe? Or are the only concerns here at TCH about my personal trustworthiness? By the way, Bruce, you realize that I'm looking to spend more money here at TCH to buy a security certificate? If I were looking to move, I'd have been gone already. TCH-Bruce - I responded to this privately.

Thanks, everyone, for your suggestions. I've checked with my property agent, who works out of South Africa, and I'm convinced there is no realistic way to process credit cards with an online shopping cart. Likewise, PayPal is not a viable option. This is from the PayPal FAQ: I've found some web hosts who claim to offer the service that I want. Here are some links: TCH-Bruce: I've removed the links. Please don't post links to other web hosts in our forums How do they do this? Is it not really secure? If the concern is that, with credit card numbers stored somewhere, I will be tempted to reuse them for criminal purposes later, I think this is the same risk anyone takes when they give their card number over the phone or at a carbon-copy machine. The world is not all as advanced as the U.S. with double-blind cash registers and online payments. My method will be to charge the cards, then delete the information. I just want to make sure nobody unauthorized can intercept the numbers. So: if anyone knows a way to do this, similar to what's promised in the two sites lined above, that'd be wonderful. Thanks, Pat

Site is now accessible. What a frustrating thing, now knowing what was wrong or how it got fixed... But thanks for the help.

I just ran a traceroute using Mac's "Network Utility" program, and got only this: >traceroute: unknown host essays.quotidiana.com When I run it on http://writing.quotidiana.com, I get: >traceroute to writing.quotidiana.com (69.50.222.51), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 * * * 2 * * * 3 slkc-dsl-gw10-202.slkc.qwest.net (67.41.239.202) 46.611 ms 47.036 ms 45.952 ms 4 slkc-agw1.inet.qwest.net (67.41.239.93) 45.962 ms 55.147 ms 46.129 ms 5 slk-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.131.21) 46.841 ms 72.629 ms 58.579 ms 6 svx-core-02.inet.qwest.net (67.14.1.58) 76.660 ms 130.054 ms 64.252 ms 7 sjp-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.214.138) 70.879 ms 167.075 ms 167.544 ms 8 cpr1-pos-13-0.sanjoseequinix.savvis.net (208.173.54.5) 171.447 ms 63.085 ms 65.976 ms 9 dcr1-so-0-3-0.sanfranciscosfo.savvis.net (204.70.194.5) 65.902 ms 70.203 ms 64.053 ms 10 dcr2-so-5-0-0.sanfranciscosfo.savvis.net (204.70.192.150) 68.936 ms 73.360 ms 64.286 ms 11 bpr2-so-7-0-0.paloaltopaix.savvis.net (208.172.147.98) 68.618 ms bpr2-so-0-0-0.paloaltopaix.savvis.net (208.172.147.94) 72.216 ms bpr2-so-7-0-0.paloaltopaix.savvis.net (208.172.147.98) 71.859 ms 12 electric-lightwave.paloaltopaix.savvis.net (206.24.241.230) 64.981 ms 70.095 ms 64.539 ms 13 p7-0.cr01.sntd.eli.net (207.173.114.137) 70.019 ms 72.831 ms 65.071 ms 14 srp3-0.cr02.sntd.eli.net (208.186.21.34) 126.980 ms 75.248 ms 64.780 ms 15 p9-0.cr01.lsan.eli.net (207.173.114.53) 125.803 ms 130.515 ms 74.338 ms 16 so-0-0-0--0.cr01.phnx.eli.net (207.173.113.106) 118.590 ms 129.565 ms 133.710 ms 17 ge-0-0-0--0.gw05.phnx.eli.net (207.173.113.94) 135.082 ms 129.161 ms 134.712 ms 18 gw0-cust-atjeu-com.phnx.eli.net (70.98.188.242) 135.289 ms 83.301 ms 84.409 ms 19 server377.snhdns.com (69.50.222.51) 83.857 ms 105.405 ms 102.956 ms So, still mysterious, especially if you can access it from Ohio.

Thanks. I have a Mac, though, so I don't know how to run the tracert function. If anybody knows, please pass it on. Meanwhile: doesn't it seem weird that only one subdomain is failing, and that I can access the files anyway?

I'm not sure what that is or how to do it. Can you explain or point me to some instructions? Thanks, Pat

About a week ago, I set up a new subdomain: http://essays.quotidiana.com. By the next day, it was accessible from my browser, no problem. The day after that, from another computer, the subdomain wasn't accessible. I thought it might be a problem with the place I was at, like the DNS update hadn't propagated everywhere. That afternoon, the subdomain was still accessible from home. Now, today, three days after, I can't access the subdomain anymore. This screws up links and CSS and javascript files and images (though I can still access the text at http://quotidiana.com/essays/). Other subdomains at the same site (http://writing.quotidiana.com/ or http://bobcats.quotidiana.com/) are fine. What's going on? Any way for me to fix things? Thanks, Pat

I may check out what options my property manager's payment processor offers. I think setting up an entire CMS is more work than I want to do right now. Aside from the problem of storing credit card information in a database, there must be some way to get information from a user securely, no? I mean, if it's safe enough to go ahead and run a credit card into a payment processor, then it must be safe (and easier) to just get me their credit card information, no? And while I appreciate people's concerns about storing the numbers, this would be no more risky than ordering something by phone or with a merchant who runs a carbon copy of my credit card, no?

Thanks for the comments. Since people are coming from all over Europe (to either London or Cape Town), phone calls are less than ideal (though not impossible). The idea would be to remove the credit card number from the database immediately upon retrieval, not store it. I suppose I could betray people's trust, but I could do that with a phone call, a pen, and a piece of paper, too. Nobody pays cash for the villa, so at some point, they have to trust that I will charge them only for their rental and then destroy any record I have of their credit card number. Of course, it doesn't have to be a database. I just want a way for people to "pay" through the website. The transaction would happen very quickly, though not immediately, as you mention. So I'll be sure to mention that (of course, most transactions I make with my credit card take a day to appear anyway). So: these shopping cart programs: how do they work for taking credit card information? Are they hooked in to a seller's credit card system? Is it all automatic, invisible to the buyer and seller? Thanks, Pat

Thanks, Andy. I'll open the help ticket now.

I have no experience so far in setting up any shopping carts or anything (though I've done some blog software and other database PHP stuff). I want a very simple way to get credit card numbers from people wishing to rent a villa in South Africa. My property manager will run the credit cards on her machine. I just need a secure way for a renter to get me their number. I am willing to buy a security certificate from TCH. Now I just need some way for a client to input their credit card number so it will get to me (I can retrieve it from a database and then delete it, or whatever). I don't need it to charge the card or anything. What would be the simplest and best way to set this up? Thank you for your help. Pat

I have a few email addresses that I check using Horde's webmail interface. Most accounts work just fine, but very recently I've not been able to delete messages from one account. The error I get is: Notice: Undefined index: l in /usr/local/cpanel/base/horde/lib/Horde/IMAP/Tree.php on line 723 Notice: Undefined index: c in /usr/local/cpanel/base/horde/lib/Horde/IMAP/Tree.php on line 724 Notice: Undefined index: p in /usr/local/cpanel/base/horde/lib/Horde/IMAP/Tree.php on line 725 Notice: Undefined index: v in /usr/local/cpanel/base/horde/lib/Horde/IMAP/Tree.php on line 726 Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/local/cpanel/base/horde/lib/Horde/IMAP/Tree.php:723) in /usr/local/cpanel/base/horde/imp/templates/common-header.inc on line 4 Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/local/cpanel/base/horde/lib/Horde/IMAP/Tree.php:723) in /usr/local/cpanel/base/horde/imp/templates/common-header.inc on line 5 A cursory search of the support forums didn't get me anywhere. Can anyone offer some guidance? Thanks, Pat