Thanks Bruce for the info on certificates. We did try that earlier and it may have cleared up the certificate problem but it didn't resolve also losing connection to email and then having it connect again on it's own. What's confusing is we have been going along for years without these problems and then all of a sudden we are getting email issues. Other clients who are on Total Choice on our recommendation are getting massive volumes of spam, and continual requests to enter name and password. These issues may be unrelated but they are all happening frequently. And most of this has started occurring in the last month or so.