StrangerStranger Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 (edited) Is Totalchoice *******? I was going to transfer several domains here, but I just wanted to make sure everything is ok? What is a mediation with Hosting Assured Company? Edited February 26, 2004 by Head Guru
Head Guru Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 Mediation means that a customer has asked hosting assured to help them solve a dispute with us. We have been with Hosting Assured for almost two years. This is only the second time a customer has mediated a problem. In this case this complaint is from a former customer who failed to pay his hosting bills and his site was suspended.
MikeJ Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 You can find more info on what it means to be in mediation here as well if you want to see for yourself.
StrangerStranger Posted February 24, 2004 Author Posted February 24, 2004 I still can't fugure out what mediation is? Is it something Totalchice has done? Also what is a setup time for new accouns, I see some posts that the acconts were not setup after 24 hours.
Head Guru Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 If your account passes all fraud checks you can count on your account being setup within 1 hour. Mediation means the former customer contacted hosting assured to help them solve a issue with us.
StrangerStranger Posted February 24, 2004 Author Posted February 24, 2004 Ok, I will at least wait until the mediation is resolved, whatever it is. In the meantime I will shop around, I don't want to take any risks, I hope you understand.
Alan Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 TCH is by far the greatest hosting service on the net today! I think this would explain it Mediation - Is when a customer has a problem with their host and they ask the Third-Party such as Hosting Assured, to assist in working out the problem with the current host.
StrangerStranger Posted February 25, 2004 Author Posted February 25, 2004 TCH is by far the greatest hosting service on the net today! I think this would explain it Mediation - Is when a customer has a problem with their host and they ask the Third-Party such as Hosting Assured, to assist in working out the problem with the current host. Well, why woud there be a mediation if Totalchoice is the greatest around? Can only former custemers file for mediation? Or current custemers can not file a mediation?
TCH-Bruce Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 In this case this complaint is from a former customer who failed to pay his hosting bills and his site was suspended. Bill told you the reason for the mediation. Look around the forum. Almost everyone here believes this place is the best host they have ever been with. It's your choice to host where you want and I wish you luck in what ever you decide to do.
StrangerStranger Posted February 25, 2004 Author Posted February 25, 2004 I don't know who Bill is, but anyway, there are so many choices out there offer more than Totalchoice offers, all I was looking for was a reliable company. Mediations and other stuff is beyond my comprehension, but it dos not sound like reliable. Good luck to you all.
MikeJ Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Well, why woud there be a mediation if Totalchoice is the greatest around? Can only former custemers file for mediation? Or current custemers can not file a mediation? It kind of goes along with the saying you can't please all of the people all of the time. Although in this case, which I believe I know who issued the complaint with Hosting Assured, it very much sounds like the customer's stubborness that caused his problem, not anything TCH did. So to put it into perspective... out of probably thousands of customers, one individual felt they had a problem. I currently trust TCH enough that I have already put in several hundred dollars of my own money into my hosting account with them this month. It behooves you to shop around, but as a current TCH customer who also did some shopping before ending up here, I think you will be happy with what TCH has to offer.
Madmanmcp Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Well, why woud there be a mediation if Totalchoice is the greatest around? Can only former custemers file for mediation? Or current custemers can not file a mediation? There are always two sides to a disagreement, the customer believes he/she is right and the company believes they are right. So they go to a place that is not associated with either and ask them to listen to both sides and help resolve the problem. Just because most of the customers here think TCH is the greatest (which it is) doesn't mean they are perfect. There are always going to be problems and someone will be unhappy and these things get escalated to where they are now. But this doesn't mean TCH is going out of business or has a problem that should disqualify them from your list of possibilities. You need to weight the goods and the bad and realize that yes, someone out there filed a complaint. It happens. I would assume that former members would file for mediation since these usually involve money or service. If you are not a customer there is no service or money involved. Hope I've helped with these question and please, don't run off because of one complaint. I'm sure the other companies have their own complaints if you look hard enough.
TCH-Bruce Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 (edited) I don't know who Bill is, but anyway, there are so many choices out there offer more than Totalchoice offers, all I was looking for was a reliable company. Mediations and other stuff is beyond my comprehension, but it dos not sound like reliable. Good luck to you all. Well, Bill is the owner of TotalChoiceHosting. I feel TCH is reliable and have several sites hosted here. I am not a paid employee here. I am a customer. Just happen to be a moderator of the forums as well. You are correct that there are other hosting companies out there. I myself have been with 5 over the last 7 years and I am done shopping. When problems arise these guys respond as quickly as humanly possible. When there are problems beyond their control they are open about it and keep the customers up to date with the progress. Other hosts I've been with did not have an open forum where you could get information let alone have a help desk to get answers to my questions. There is nothing we could say to make you want to stay. It is your decision to do what you like. But TCH offers a 30-day money back gaurantee no questions asked. If you open an account and don't like it you can always cancel. Best of luck to you. Edited February 25, 2004 by TCH-Bruce
krieser Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 StrangerStranger, Good Luck to you on whichever host you do choose, but if you're having doubts, and have some time, by all means, linger in the forums for a while and see the kind of feedback being posted here. Also, I believe there's still a 30-day money back guarantee... I sound like a salesman
StrangerStranger Posted February 25, 2004 Author Posted February 25, 2004 One last question. How crowded the servers are? I read a comment Totalchoice is overselling the servers. Some posts here indicate the money was taking out of their accounts, but the account was not setup? I hope yo don't mind these questions, I just want to make sure everthing is fine. I just want to make sure, Totalchoice is a reliable company.
StrangerStranger Posted February 25, 2004 Author Posted February 25, 2004 StrangerStranger, Good Luck to you on whichever host you do choose, but if you're having doubts, and have some time, by all means, linger in the forums for a while and see the kind of feedback being posted here. Also, I believe there's still a 30-day money back guarantee... I sound like a salesman You all sound like a salesman.
MikeJ Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Actually, TCH sells a lot less account per server than most companies. Just do a search through the forums for a temporary sales halt when they were getting accounts so fast they wanted to make sure they built out enough additional servers to properly handle everyone. How many providers do you know of that will turn down sales for any period of time to make sure their existing customers are not negatively affected?
StrangerStranger Posted February 25, 2004 Author Posted February 25, 2004 Stranger - Pick a number from 4 - 59 I picked 50 What is it with the numbers?
MikeJ Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 They are the shared servers that are available.
TCH-Rick Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 What a coincidence. I was in server 50 working on a customer's request. Current Stats: load average: 0.81, 0.88, 0.70 Pretty nice....
StrangerStranger Posted February 25, 2004 Author Posted February 25, 2004 Anyway, thanks for your persuasions, I have to go now, I will come back to this topic. But you have to do more. I will at least wait till the mediation is resolved, whatever that is.
Head Guru Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Load Averages 0.99 0.91 0.76 http://www.tchstatus.com/web-hosting-server50.html You have to ask the next host you look at. Are you running Dell Quad 2.8 Xeons with 10K RPM Hard drives and 3ware Controllers with at least 1gb of ram. For $4.00 a month accounts, I bet they say no.
krieser Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Yeah, I'm on server 50. That peak on the chart is probably from when I linked my home office pic from my site to the forums (wow, the hits!!).
TCH-Dick Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Just thought I would chime in here... heres what happened and why it is in mediation. A customer didnt pay his bill, we e-mailed him 16 times letting him know his credit card failed after the 16th e-mail with no response we suspended his account. As soon as his account was suspended he contacted us and demanded to know why his account was offline, he was told his credit card failed and he never replied to any of the notices so it was suspended. Then he was given an option to establish new billing for his account and have the site back online in a matter of minutes but he declined. He got mad and filed a complaint with hosting assured which is now in mediation. meaning hosting assured being an unbiased 3rd party is helping to resolve the dispute. Now, as far as your other question about accounts not being activated after 24 hours, or us taking peoples money and not activating their services. The only thread on the forums I can find that even comes close to that is this one, which if you read carefully once she let us know there was a problem we looked into it and come to find out it was an error on her end and was resolved in a matter of minutes. We have SEVERAL thousand customers, if we were taking peoples money and not activating their services we would also have SEVERAL thousand angry customers, take a look at the reviews written by totalChoice customers on findmyhosting.com, we didnt write those ourselves. What it all boils down to is you have to find a host you are comfortable with, if that host is us, great we'll be glad to have you. If its not, thats ok to and good luck with wherever you do decide to host your site.
silica Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Strangerstranger:there are so many choices out there offer more than Totalchoice offers Can you spell "troll"?
Deverill Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 One more thing to consider when you return to this thread, StrangerStranger. How many hosting companies out there have, as Mike says, several thousand customers and yet the owner of the company (Bill who is named Head Guru in the forums) will chat with you about the service? How many hosting companies even submit themselves to third party mediation? I'd think that about 90% of them would just say "It's our company, too bad, you lose, go away." TCH and Bill, however, do everything above board and in public. If you see a hosting company with zero complaints then they are hiding something - it's a fact of life that the guy that expects the world handed to him on a silver platter will come along and something you do will upset him. It is inevitable. As you see, you have been given the details of what upset the customer and the mediation is just an exercise in futility because there is no fault on the part of TCH. Remember the lady that sued fast food restaraunts because she was fat? Best wishes on your search but don't pass up TCH too quickly. As so many others have said, of all the ones I've experienced they are the best.
jsull Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 I think the main problem here is that Stranger doesn't understand what "Mediation" is. I don't know how much better you guys could explain it though.
Dumplin Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 I still can't fugure out what mediation is? Is it something Totalchice has done? Also what is a setup time for new accouns, I see some posts that the acconts were not setup after 24 hours. The best way I can explain the process is the 2 parties with the beef are brought together by a noninterested party who listens to both sides asks what each wants and allows the 2 in disagrement to come up with a reasonable conclusion......if that doesnt work than the party that cried can take it to the real courts. This sounds like a nobrainer to me.....if the person didn't pay the bills than they should have been dumped. I don't know all the facts but seems cut and dry to me. Donna
ThumpAZ Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 StrangerStranger, I can understand your apprehensions when deciding where to spend your hard-earned money. My wife lets me know every day how hard it will be for me to spend mine (there's simply none left when she gets done with it ). The mediation process is just a formal word for 3rd Party Arbitration. This is imply where two people go to talk to an uninvolved person or entity to work out a problem. Kind of like a marriage counselor. The mediation process is in no way a litigious action such as a lawsuit, but is an agreement to disagree and let someone else make the final decision. Then the two (or more) parties go on about their ways with that decision. Seeing that a company is willing to go to mediation is actually a good thing. As some have said, most hosting companies out there take the mentality that "Our word is law, and you are not worthy" so when a problem arises, you have the options of take it and leave it, or take them to court and pray. I, too, am not a paid employee, but a customer asked to help out with other customers, and potential customers. We Forum Moderators (the unpaid folks) are also here to help keep topics moving, and to add new flavor to the boards. So I speak to you as a TCH customer, with nothing to gain. I have been involved in hosting and maintaining sites for several years like many of the other folks here. I have also ran the gamut from Dedicated servers, client-owned servers, and varying degrees of shared (virtual) servers. During the last 7-8 years of hosting, I have never run across a company more open and up front about their systems as TCH. I have never before even had a real clue as to who or what type of person the owner of the company is. Until just recently, I had never seen a customer forum where clients can talk with each other. Most hosts only let you know who their "premier" clients are for references... and those clients typically receive some sort of kickback in the form of free or discounted services for agreeing to be reference sites. Also, a typical call to tech support (after the 15-45 minute wait) to let them know my site was down would yield a canned answer. And, frequently, subsequent calls would gain me a different answer when connecting with a different tech. It was like they were told to pick an answer from a prescripted list and just tell whoever calls that this happened. On the TCH forums, the employees quickly alert folks to server status in the current server status, or answer customer concerns about their servers in the same location. I actually applaud you for being up front and asking questions. It is a sign of someone who is not willing to just "take what is offered" and wants to make sure that their cash is getting what they paid for. I don't want to tell you what to do, but I do offer these suggestions. I say that you SHOULD shop around and ask questions. Make them pointed. Find a benchmark of services offered, personal wishes and expected responses. Do open searches on the Internet and at hosting ratings sites for hosts that offer what you want. try to get a hold of their support staff and pointedly ask them about server loads, sites-per-server for shared accounts, server uptime reports for the last 12 months, average call resolution times (documented, not just a verbal "about this much"). And, very importantly, ask them for references of users who have similar or the same acount type you are looking for. They probably will not give you most of this information, but it is worth asking. Those that won't give that info are either not doing their job, or might just be trying to hide something. I do, however, have to refute one statement you made regarding other hosts giving the same thing or more for less. This is simply not true when you take into account the level of personal attention and sense of real community that TCH offers. The statement also is diminished in its factualness when you compare apples to apples in the hard facts of the offering. Post here with a service that has the hardware TCH offers, with the same or better features for same or less cost (apples to apples excluding operating systems, remember) and I will pay for your hosting with that company for 3 months (shared service comparable with TCH Deluxe Plan). Good luck in your search,and i hope to be adding you to the many people I welcome to the TCH forums and family! Regards, Glenn
Dumplin Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 I don't know who Bill is, but anyway, there are so many choices out there offer more than Totalchoice offers, all I was looking for was a reliable company. Mediations and other stuff is beyond my comprehension, but it dos not sound like reliable. Good luck to you all. I can't help but wonder if your affilated with the lame that didn't pay their bills and are over here just to stir the pot a little. I am very happy with my choice of Host for my website.......it is more than a hobby for me and I do it Just for Fun. The prices and features can't be beat and the customer service is the best I have seen. I was paying 14.95 per month and not only am I getting a bargin but tripple the storage space. This Forum is something I see no other Host provide for customers and non-customers. I searched for 6 months and within 1 day of looking over the Website and these groups I made my up my mind. No my account wasn't up in the 24 timeframe but that was because of a error on my part and 4 hours after I made my query I had the email with my account data. Donna Rock Sign
Dumplin Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Strangerstranger:there are so many choices out there offer more than Totalchoice offers Can you spell "troll"? LOL.......that's my guess too
StrangerStranger Posted February 25, 2004 Author Posted February 25, 2004 Hi all, Thank you for all your inputs. I have shopped around and there are several histing companies that offer a lot more than Totalchoice, to name one ****.com you can even host inlimited domains under one account. In the meantime I have investigated the mediation process. Thanks to some of the tips that I got from the forum members. The customer in question had two accounts at Totalchoice. He/She e-mailed the Totalchoice billing department weeks before his/her renewal time to find out the renewal times for his/her domains. He/she was told he/she would be notified about the expiration dates for both accounts when the time comes. Customer was never notified by Totalchice. Finding out that one of his/her accounts was under suspension without any notice, he/she got upset. he/she wrote the issue at Totalchoice forums. Seeing this the head gru deleted all the messages on this forum, banned the customer from the forums. Not only that, the head gru also suspended the customer's second account right away although the second account had no billing problems. All the customer was asking some backup data from the suspended first account, since the problem is still not solved the mediation is still going on. Totalchoice could be given a warning. Here is what I heard, correct me if I am wrong?
MikeJ Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Supposing that you aren't actually this person, or a friend of his, based on your detailed interest in it... one of the basis of his complaints was the way TCH used to do their billing, which appears to be exactly the same way **** does theres... through 2checkout.com. Had he been with ****.com instead of TCH, he would have most likely been in the exact same situation because he failed to maintain a valid email address with the billing system, one that he didn't even remember he used in the first place. Plus, the customer didn't just "write the issue in the forums"... he made false statements along with his issue which TCH would have every right to remove. Plus you might want to check ****.com's plan. It's not clear on their website, but for $4 a month, it looks like their plans are a year contract, which after 30 days you cannot get a refund if you decide you don't like their service, whereas TCH's is $4 a month, so you can cancel at anytime if you decide you don't like the service.
StrangerStranger Posted February 25, 2004 Author Posted February 25, 2004 Supposing that you aren't actually this person, or a friend of his, based on your detailed interest in it... one of the basis of his complaints was the way TCH used to do their billing, which appears to be exactly the same way **** does theres... through 2checkout.com. Had he been with ****.com instead of TCH, he would have most likely been in the exact same situation because he failed to maintain a valid email address with the billing system, one that he didn't even remember he used in the first place. Plus, the customer didn't just "write the issue in the forums"... he made false statements along with his issue which TCH would have every right to remove. Plus you might want to check ****.com's plan. It's not clear on their website, but for $4 a month, it looks like their plans are a year contract, which after 30 days you cannot get a refund if you decide you don't like their service, whereas TCH's is $4 a month, so you can cancel at anytime if you decide you don't like the service. I don't know all the details of course, I wrote what I heard. I am just checeking the reliability of Totalchoice. **** also offers 30 days money back guarante.
borfast Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 StrangerStranger, allow me to be a bit rude: why don't you cut the BS, signup for an account and find out for yourself what TCH is worth?...
TCH-Dick Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 (edited) StrangerStranger, allow me to be a bit rude: why don't you cut the BS, signup for an account and find out for yourself what TCH is worth?... I agree. How about this, I'll even pay for your first month out of my pockect.!!!! look like you lost that offer. I can't stand dishonest people. Edited February 25, 2004 by TCH-Dick
StrangerStranger Posted February 25, 2004 Author Posted February 25, 2004 StrangerStranger, allow me to be a bit rude: why don't you cut the BS, signup for an account and find out for yourself what TCH is worth?... Ok, I will take your word for it and send my setup tonight. As you say there is 30 day money back, and first month free is a goos deal.
Head Guru Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Stranger - We also offer a 30day money back promise. They do not show proof of their 99.99% uptime. **cough cough** impossible on shared servers at this price point. You want proof on our uptime. We offer it. They do not mention hardware. We proove our hardware. Quad Xeons to be precise.
Head Guru Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 Lemme ask where you "Heard" the details on the mediation process!
Head Guru Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 TCH USERS - Its open hunting season on strangerstranger. hosting assured does not share details of mediation. "If you correspond with us via E-mail or you request that we mediate a problem you may have with a Hosting Assured web hosting company, we may gather the information in a file specific to you. We only collect the information that you provide to us. We will not sell, share, or rent the information that you share with us to others. Like many other websites, Hosting Assured collects information about users' utilization and navigation of our site. This information helps us to design our site to better suit our users' needs."
ComicGuy Posted February 25, 2004 Posted February 25, 2004 I think this speaks for itself!!! Pulled straight from FindMyHosting.com www.totalchoicehosting.com Server Uptime Monitoring Since: 01/30/2003 Outages: 4 Uptime: 99.937% www.****.com Server Uptime Monitoring Since: 01/29/2003 Outages: 22 Uptime: 99.605%
TCH-Dick Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 OK, Bill says its open season so I decided to do a little more looking. I also find it kind of odd that strangerstranger always stays hidden on the forums (yes admins can still see you) Heres what I come up with, the person that originally got upset and filed the mediation with findmyhosting, according to his profile he is from Pompano Beach, Florida. Do a whois on strangerstrangers IP address and hmmm, where doe it originate? Pembroke Pines, Florida. coincidence? maybe so I do a little more looking around Pompano Beach is 21.5 miles from Pembroke Pines. Ok so what are the chances of A) strangerstranger NOT being the same person that filed the complaint or strangerstranger NOT being a friend of the person that filed the complaint. I say the chances are slim to none, there how many billions of people in the world and strangerstranger just HAPPENS to live 21 miles away from the guy that started this all and he just HAPPENS to know all of the details??
Head Guru Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Stranger has gone mute. I find it very odd that he has all the details of the mediation, albeit one sided. The details on mediation are never released to any 3rd parties. So either stranger is the next Crossing Over star or he is a troll. My bet is he is a troll. Stranger, respond to where you "heard" this information or I will ban your username and firewall your ip range. Your choice
stevevan Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Almost makes me wish I was still working in down in Pompano Beach!
Head Guru Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 You know what makes this thread so awesome. Just more information to hand over to the folks at Hosting Assured. Just another nail in the coffin of the former client demanding data without paying for it. Stranger - You could have at least used a proxy.
borfast Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 You know what makes this thread so awesome. Just more information to hand over to the folks at Hosting Assured. Just another nail in the coffin of the former client demanding data without paying for it. Stranger - You could have at least used a proxy. LOL Beautiful!
Head Guru Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 /add ruleset /restart firewall /LID SLAMMED!
borfast Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 (edited) Too bad, I was enjoying the show! Edit: wow! I just reached 1000 posts! Lianna, see? I told you I would get there!! Edited February 26, 2004 by TCH-Raul
MikeJ Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Hehe..... I just noticed StrangerStranger's new sig.
Alan Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Stranger has gone mute. I find it very odd that he has all the details of the mediation, albeit one sided. The details on mediation are never released to any 3rd parties. So either stranger is the next Crossing Over star or he is a troll. My bet is he is a troll. Stranger, respond to where you "heard" this information or I will ban your username and firewall your ip range. Your choice Now Now Bill! Have you ever thought that Hosting Assured has a leak? And I think someone mentioned "Failure to pay their bill" somewhere above, WHY would someone need help from Hosting Assured to handle a problem with them not paying their Bills? LOL And if you fail to pay your bills, all the hosting companies I have seen have it stated clearly in their Terms of Service that they will remove your site from their servers.
TCH-Dick Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Hehe..... I just noticed StrangerStranger's new sig. Yea, I do good work
Alan Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 (edited) Yes we notice! I thought Bill did it though. lol Edited February 26, 2004 by Alan
TCH-Don Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 What else makes this tread so awesome, is how the family rallys to defend their home. Thumbs Up How many hosting companys can say that?
TCH-Rob Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Too bad, I was enjoying the show! Edit: wow! I just reached 1000 posts! Lianna, see? I told you I would get there!! Slacker Raul. I saw that on the HA site as well about not sharing info. There was a bit too much knowledge for a stranger.
Ninepatch Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Talk about spitting into the wind! Go get'im HG! Thumbs Up Beth
n2access Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 I've been with Total Choice Hosting (and SNH) for two years and have had a few problems. Fact is, Bill or his team has always answered my calls, answered my emails, answered my forum posts and fixed the problem. What else can I ask for? I'm still with TCH and believe they have a quality product with an unbeatable price. Wow. What a combination. Jerry Presley
ThumpAZ Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 (edited) So, does this mean you banned this person? I cannot tell, but they did go very silent all of a sudden. I have to agree with the suspicions and raise the BS flag at this point. This person knows details of a privacy-protected mediation, but doesn't know the person, or is not the person involved?? BS This person states that there are better plans out there on comparable hardware for the same or less money... and even has an offer standing from me for their frist 3 months on my dime? BS This person thinks that coming onto this board, and after looking around at the amaqzing folks we have here, and by espousing their drivel in the presales forum will somehow sway someone looking to host here? BS... look at the positive responses. Dim person... very dim. Tries to make it look lke they don't know the person involved in the mediation by going He/she? Not only BS, but also poor English. The accepted is to assume the male gender when speaking of a person of unknown gender. Shoulda expected that from FL, where many couldn't figure out a voting card (no offense to most Floridians, you're smart enough to live near the beauty that is FL... I lived there, and my parents still do). UGH, I could go on and on, but I digress as my comments can only get more derogatory towards the idiocy. Let me ask, though, why the sig where you have taken a moderator's avatar, added the TCH Rocks smiley and provided linking and an image of a company that you are so unsure of? Makes absolutely no stinkin sense to me. I am a very forgiving person and I do hope that I can have the opportunity to prove that to you should you just settle down and sign up, and realize that we truly are a family around here. Scared or not, you are not painting a pretty picture of yourself with the statements and claims you are making. -Glenn P.S. Some of you know what I do regarding security... can i have at 'em??? Someone offer me a contract for $0.01 and I am at it (I won't touch anything without a contract, LOL). [scrappy Doo]Lemme at 'em lemme at 'em[/scrappy Doo] /Pcap load mon.IP-'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -prot /UDP/TCP/SMTP/SNMP/HTTP -range '1-80000' /Pcap log-c:\protocol.txt ...left a lot of steps out to cover my tail... /Pcap load get '*.*' IP-'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' user-'xxxxxxxx' pass-'xxxxxx' /Pcap log-c:\structure.txt /Pcap sendfile-'del.bat' /e GRRRR Edited February 26, 2004 by TCH-Glenn
TCH-Rob Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 (edited) Let me ask, though, why the sig where you have taken a moderator's avatar, added the TCH Rocks smiley and provided linking and an image of a company that you are so unsure of? Makes absolutely no stinkin sense to me. Glenn, Dick changed it. Edited February 26, 2004 by TCH-Rob
ThumpAZ Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Oh, now it makes sense... that was confusing the bejeezus outta me.
StrangerStranger Posted February 26, 2004 Author Posted February 26, 2004 I noticed my messages are not posting right away. Seems like you guys know how to keep the people from writing to this forums. Good luck to you all.
Head Guru Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Wow you found a new IP address. Now I have to ban your whole IP range.
Head Guru Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 I spent 11 years in Law Enforcement, and it still amazes me that people think TCH is stupid. I look at the postings of stranger and then compare them to the postings of the former client. Well not much more needs to be said. Not to mention the IP ranges from strangerstranger are 21 miles from the former clients own ip. Make of it as you like. However, either two people have the same precise typing skills, or I have some property in Michigan I can sell you at $1.00 an acre. You figure it out. Looking at the mispellings there are just to many in common. You know whats really sad, is this client that is mediating a complaint, hosted with us for 13 months without issue. In fact searching these forums will show praises from the very person who now is conducting this stupid campaign. Grow up!
Deverill Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Something I love about this guy is that he is so "high and mighty" but the first thing he did was to use TCH's logo, the TCH Rock's sign and TCH-Dick's avatar in and as his own signature on the posts. Gee, that's mighty honest of ya Stranger.
Deverill Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Oh yeah, I forgot. Has anyone noticed that the subtitle of this thread changed from "Is TCH going out of business" (or similar) to "There is a mediation going on" ?
TCH-Rob Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 I say instead of pandering to this stranger that it is obvious nothing we say will change things and he is trying to create trouble. Instead of continuing this charade, just let him go about his way. We shouldn't have to prove that we believe in our home. Either someone likes it here or they don't. No one here has posted the information that the stranger knows so it can only be coming from one source. We can not please everybody and we may not be for everybody, there has to be .001 out there that don't like us for some reason. To Stranger, You don't seem to be happy with the way TCH works so maybe you should move along. There are plenty of customers and future customers that do like us and that we can assist. I will be working with them from now on. Forgive me if I was out of line.
TCH-Bruce Posted February 26, 2004 Posted February 26, 2004 Something I love about this guy is that he is so "high and mighty" but the first thing he did was to use TCH's logo, the TCH Rock's sign and TCH-Dick's avatar in and as his own signature on the posts. Gee, that's mighty honest of ya Stranger. Jim, Dick edited his signature.
Head Guru Posted February 27, 2004 Posted February 27, 2004 Lets be done with this thread shall we? Thread Closed.
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