shogun Posted October 14, 2003 Posted October 14, 2003 Hi! I am using Movable Type and I am thinking about changing hosts because I always get a 500 server timeout error when my site gets a certain size. I would not want to change host, just to find out it has the same problem! Please help! Shogun Quote
Wilexa Posted October 14, 2003 Posted October 14, 2003 Shogun, I only represent one data point, but I run my site with MT for content management (+ PHP and MySQL to serve up dynamic image requests) and have never had a server timeout error. How many entries are you talking about? Are you getting the error on rebuild or just viewing the site? Anyway, don't forget that TCH has a money-back guarantee! Hope you join the family! ...dave Quote
shogun Posted October 14, 2003 Author Posted October 14, 2003 Currently I have about 1000 entries but I add about 10-20 every day I get server timouts when I rebuild. Visitors also get a server timout whetn they try to add new comments to my site Quote
shogun Posted October 14, 2003 Author Posted October 14, 2003 Maybe I should refine my question: What is the maximum length of time I can execute a script? I get the server timeout error because at my current host I can't execute a script for more then 12 seconds, I think. What is the time limit at TCH? Until I know the answer to that I cannot possibly make a choice to move. Can someone answer that? Quote
Guest schussat Posted October 14, 2003 Posted October 14, 2003 What is the maximum length of time I can execute a script? I get the server timeout error because at my current host I can't execute a script for more then 12 seconds, I think. Hi shogun- I've never encountered a server timeout error, and have had scripts (not at TCH, but elsewhere) that take significant amounts of time to run -- which makes me think perhaps the problem lies in the MT configuration. Do you know if the error you're getting is from the web server or from MT? Per this thread regarding timeouts, you might check out your mt.cfg and increase the value of PingTimeout. -Alan Quote
shogun Posted October 15, 2003 Author Posted October 15, 2003 Changing that value makes no difference. I am hosting 5 sites at this host but there is only a problem with the big site (the problem begun when the entries became more then about 600). I know the problem is that I can't execute a script for more then 12 seconds. So the only thing I need to know is what the limit is at TCH. Quote
TCH-Rick Posted October 15, 2003 Posted October 15, 2003 We do have a similar limit set on running scripts. The problem is that MT is not real efficient once the database gets large and has to do a lot of rebuilding of pages. It uses a lot of cpu cycles and will run up server loads. In a shared hosting environment this causes problems for all the accounts on the server so limits are placed. Quote
shogun Posted October 15, 2003 Author Posted October 15, 2003 Hmm ok. Is there then no way for my to store MT site here so it will work? Quote
shogun Posted October 16, 2003 Author Posted October 16, 2003 Do you sell access to a dedicated server? Could I along with few of my friends buy access to a dedicated server that would allow for more server time? Quote
TCH-Sales Posted October 16, 2003 Posted October 16, 2003 MovableType is fully runable here at TotalChoice Hosting. The problems described above are down the line when your databases are badly managed and really large. I hope this doesn't stop anybody totally from installing MT with us. Yes, it has some problems but what script doesn't? Now chipping in to get a dedicated server isn't a bad idea. Here's our dedicated server page. http://www.totalchoicehosting.com/web-host...-dedicated.html Quote
Oneida Posted November 9, 2003 Posted November 9, 2003 I also use MovableType. I haven't had problems with server timeouts (so far) at my current host, but I am having problems with not being able to use certain plugins because of an outdated DBI perl module and no Storable perl module. I ran across a reference to TCH at a MT guru's site and am impressed with how it compares to my current host, which I've been with for 5 years and up to now have been very pleased with. My question also concerns the potential for server timeouts in MT. At present I only have about 300 entries in MT, but after I get the perl module problems resolved (either here or with my current host), I will be importing several thousand articles from a different format into MT. The problem with MT, of course, is that any change to the layout (aside from css changes) usually requires rebuilding everything. MT allows one to configure how many entries it rebuilds at one time - the default is 40, but conceivably could be a low as one, so I've alway assumed that timeouts during rebuilding will not be a problem even with several thousand entries, given a reasonably fast server and how fast MySQL is. However, I may be wrong about that. I'm also concerned about Shogun's mention of server timeouts during comment submission, and so am interested in any thoughts that TCH's techs might have about the potential for server timeouts during rebuilds or comment submission, as well as the experience of MT users currently hosted by TCH. The web site involved is a totally non-profit, non-commercial .org on environmental issues that I pay for out of my own pocket. Given that I have a very limited income, a dedicated server is not feasible. It currently gets about 3,000 visitors per day during weekdays, with 15,000-20,000 page views, so if I move to TCH, I would probably sign up for the "Gold" hosting plan. Thanks, Oneida Quote
TCH-Sales Posted November 9, 2003 Posted November 9, 2003 Well I can tell you from personal experiance that my experiance running MovableType with TotalChoice Hosting has been the best. Don't think you should have anything to worry about as far as server time outs and all that is concerned and your right on the money with the hosting package. With the details you gave I would suggest a Gold or higher plan as well. Nothing wrong with over-buying a little bit just to give yourself more room to do stuff on. Hope to see you with us soon! Quote
Deverill Posted November 9, 2003 Posted November 9, 2003 Another big thing is the speed of the servers. If the server can whip out page compilations quickly it becomes less of a problem. Here is what TCH uses (from the main page) to compare with your current host: Only Server Class Hardware! Dell Dual/Quad CPU 2.4GHz Intel Xeon Servers Dell Dual CPU Intel Pentium III Servers Red Hat Linux 7.3, 8.0 and 9.0 Servers 512 to 2048 MB of RAM Multiple Tier 1 Bandwidth Providers Premium World Class Data Centers Cisco Routers and Switches APC UPS Systms Powerware UPS Systems Diesel Generator System (For Power Backup) Quote
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