Difference Between Wordpress.com & Wordpress.org

[glamorouscreations]

What is the difference between wordpress.com and wordpress.org? I think wordpress.com host your blog and themese for you , but what does wordpress.org do? I have wordpress installed but would like my site not to have a link like this www.mysite.com/wordpress

cause im learning to do wordpress and really dont want to have wordpress host my stuff? Does any of what i am asking make since?

Thank you

[OJB]

Wordpress.org is the community support/downloads/documentation of the standalone wordpress download that you install on your own servers.

 

Wordpress.com hosts the wordpress install on their own servers with limited capability/options.

 

If I were you I would download the latest stable release from wordpress.org and install it on your box here at TCH. Then you can have it in any directory you want, including your root.

 

So you could have mysite.com be your wordpress, or mysite.com/blog (or blog.mysite.com) as your wordpress. The choice is yours as you have the freedom to do as you wish.

[glamorouscreations]

ok, wow, I have wordpress installed under the fantastico area of my cpanel, but when i view it it goes www.mysite.com/wordpress and i dont want it to do that, so how do I install it in my box? im new at this but a fast learner. So what is the 1st step basicly for me to do what you said here (If I were you I would download the latest stable release from wordpress.org and install it on your box here at TCH. Then you can have it in any directory you want, including your root.

 

So you could have mysite.com be your wordpress, or mysite.com/blog (or blog.mysite.com) as your wordpress. The choice is yours as you have the freedom to do as you wish.)

Thanks

[OJB]

OK. I am no expert with wordpress but you have various options:

 

1. Keep your current install and
   
   1. 
      
   2. redirect your root to your /wordpress directory (.htaccess modrewrite rule for example) or
      
   3. move the files (and modify the wordpress config) to the web root of your account (public_html or www - they are the same)
      

[*]Remove your current installation (backup the database first if you have content you want to keep!!!!) and manually install a fresh version from http://wordpress.org/download/ Follow these steps http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_WordPress#Famous_5-Minute_Install

Edited November 23, 2009 by OJB

[glamorouscreations]

how do i redirect the root? I am lost hehe as u can tell. and how and what do I modify for the wordpress config and where do i modify it at? I am sorry to be a pain but I really would like to do this. I will prob have it where my main site is www.mysitename.com and have it where they would click enter and then it will load to my wordpress site but i dont want wordpress hosting my stuff. see what im saying.

Thank you

[TCH-Bruce]

If you install WordPress using Fantastico it will be hosted on the TCH servers not wordpress.com.

[glamorouscreations]

Ok, then how is it when I view my wordpress it loads through wordpress.com site where it has to be activated? and I dont want it named www.mysite.com/wordpress is there a better way to rename it?

[TCH-Bruce]

PM your link to me if you don't want to make it public.

[TCH-Bruce]

Why are you thinking your blog is loading from wordpress.com? It is not, it is hosted on the TCH server. When you installed it through Fantastico it created a folder named "wordpress" in you public_html folder and that's where it is being served from.

[glamorouscreations]

Ohhhhh, ok, well is it possible to rename the folder cause I would prefer it not be named wordpress? and someone else told me it was being loaded from wordpress and that was the only way I can update it, and change the design to it? or is there a program I can do that?

[TCH-Bruce]

Simplest thing to do is create a subdomain in cPanel. Something like "blog". Then using the file manager, delete the "blog" folder that gets created. Then using the file manager rename the "wordpress" folder "blog". Now you can access the blog using the url "h*ttp://blog.yousitename.com".

 

You will have to change the address in the blog administration which ever way you go.

[glamorouscreations]

I see what your saying, I know someone who has a site and hers is set up where her main site is www.mysitename.com and then when people click enter it goes to her wordpress site but she has it named shop, that is kinda what i wanna do but i wont name mine blog or shop. see what im saying? I really dont wanna name my other site blog or wordpress.

[glamorouscreations]

is there a way to just rename my wordpress folder? if not can I make a new folder and move all the wordpress files to it?

[TCH-Bruce]

Yes, you can rename the the folder using the file manager in cPanel. But you will have to go into your blog and select the settings page. Change where it says ******/wordpress to be the new folder name you change it too.

[glamorouscreations]

Edited November 23, 2009 by glamorouscreations

[glamorouscreations]

I just did that and it seems to work, so when I design new themes do I have to activate them through wordpress or no? Cause that why I thought my blog stuff from hosted through there servers and not mine?

[TCH-Bruce]

Themes go into the wp-content/themes folder of your wordpress installation. Once you have them there you activate them in the theme manager within your wordpress blog.

 

Each theme has it's own specific folder. If you look there you will see "default" and "classic" and if you have installed any other themes they will have their own folder there as well.

[glamorouscreations]

but nothing is hosted in there server right?

[TCH-Bruce]

No if your account is here and you installed your blog using fantastico there is nothing hosted at wordpress.com. To host at wordpress.com you need an account there.

[glamorouscreations]

i do have an account there, at wordpress.com is that a big issue?

[TCH-Bruce]

I don't know what to tell you. If you are not logging into it and posting blog entries there then you have nothing going on there. If you access everything on your TCH hosted account you are fine.

[glamorouscreations]

ok, how do i update my blog, from tch and or creat theme designs? cause someone told me only way for me to do that is through wordpress site

[OJB]

glammrouscreations, providing you are using your own installation on your own server (as you are) then you don't need to do anything with wordpress' site. You can add your own themes to your install as Bruce has explained above. You can, however, from your installation, connect to the wordpress site to download and install new themes and extensions automatically, but if you want nothing to do with the wordpress site itself then you can certainly do that. Go into the theme manager in your installation and see what the options are, I am not very well versed with Wordpress to be honest.

[glamorouscreations]

I see and understand you and him have said, But my biggest question even in the wordpress book I got says to create,and add to your wordpress blog/template it has to be done using wordpress sites, I was just wandering if that is totally true, cause I can access all my wordpress files in tch but I dont see in tch where to creat a wordpress template? Thats basicly what I was wanting to know.

[TCH-Bruce]

If you want to create your own Wordpress Theme I would start with Theme Development and Using Themes.

 

You can also look through over 1,000 themes already created which you can download and apply to your installation. You can also modify any theme you download to your liking provided you have the skills necessary to modify the coding.

[glamorouscreations]

I found a blank template but it isnt available for download and want to make one myself similar to this, any ideas to where I can create this type of template?

[TCH-Thomas]

Creating a theme isn´t the easiest to do, so I would do some google searches to find a theme.

 

There´s alot of themes available that looks pretty much like the one you attached an image of.

Google for "3 column theme wordpress" and I am sure you will find something that you can easily modify to your needs.

[glamorouscreations]

I have searched but found nothing similar as of yet, and I would really love to make my own, I have wordpress for dummies but it doesnt go into detail about how to creat templates and such, will be seeking another book with more detail of the coding and such, any ideas?

[TCH-Bruce]

All the information you need to create a theme is at the links I posted in post #25.

[glamorouscreations]

I got a 3 column tenplate I baught today, and got it all set up but for some reason I cant get the right sidebar dotted lines to disappear, I have attached sample , so if at all possible can someone tell me how to get these to go away lol

[Bob Crabb]

If you bought the template, it might be best to request that the author of the template, assuming that you purchased it from the template author, find and remove the dashed border.

 

If that is not possible, and you want assistance in this forum, you will need to post a link to the page. We can speculate that a border: dashed property is applied to the element containing the menu headings to which you refer, but that is about the extent of any meaningful analysis that one can do from a screenshot.

Edited November 29, 2009 by Bob Crabb

[glamorouscreations]

Well i have tried searching through the style.css file and went through all the dashed border type lines I can find and just changed the color to a dark red , and it seems I couldnt find the rest, but here is the link, all help is appreciated.

http://glamorouscreations.com/glamorous-shop

[Bob Crabb]

in file, wp-content/themes/Christmas-Theme2/style.css

 

find:

>
#menu ul h2
{
background: url(images/bgmenu.gif) repeat top right #860000;
   border: 1px dashed #860000;
   font-size: 1.0em;
   font-weight: normal;
   padding: 2px;
   margin-bottom: 5px;
text-transform: uppercase; 
text-align: left;

 

try replacing:

>border: 1px dashed #860000;

 

with:

>border: none;

[glamorouscreations]

oh thanks, but well now it has a solid whte border lol

[Bob Crabb]

That is the background image.

 

replace:

>background: url(images/bgmenu.gif) repeat top right #860000;

 

with:

 

>background: #860000;

[glamorouscreations]

oh thank you thank you, now I gotta do some reading somewhere on how to add div bars? or can ya tell me? thank you so much

[glamorouscreations]

well ive got the div bar im going to use but it shows ontop of the text, i got to figure out how to get it belowe each topic section of the side bar menu lol any suggestions of what im doing wrong

[Bob Crabb]

You are going to need to fix the background image to the bottom of the element, and add enough height so that the text will appear above the background image. I think that if you want the titles over the candy canes, that you would also want the text centered and it might also be a good idea to make it bold.

 

 

I'm kinda winging this, so try it out and see how it works.

Find:

>
#sidebar ul h2
{
background: url(images/bgsidebar2.gif) repeat top left #860000;	
   border: 0px dashed #860000;
   font-size: 1.0em;
   font-weight: normal;
   padding-top: 5px;
   margin-bottom: 2px;
text-transform: uppercase; 
text-align: right;			
}

 

Replace with:

>
#sidebar ul h2
{
background: url(images/bgsidebar2.gif) no-repeat bottom center;	
   border: none;
   font-size: 1.0em;
   font-weight: bold;
   padding: 2px 0 22px 0;
   margin-bottom: 2px;
text-transform: uppercase; 
text-align: center;			
}

[glamorouscreations]

oh cool thank you, how did u learn this, im still learning this coding. is there a really good book i can buy for beginners? if ya want you can pm me some good info . thank you bob your kind to help me on this. now how do i get the candy cane bars on the other side bar , where it says ( about, navigation, ext....?)

[Bob Crabb]

Looking at it, I think that the text would look better with font-weight set to normal. If you want the text to be closer to the candy cane, step down the 22px setting in padding a couple of pixels at a time until it looks the way you want.

[glamorouscreations]

just changed it, let me know how to get the candy canes on the other side bar menu, thank you so much

[Bob Crabb]

oh cool thank you, how did u learn this, im still learning this coding. is there a really good book i can buy for beginners? if ya want you can pm me some good info . thank you bob your kind to help me on this. now how do i get the candy cane bars on the other side bar , where it says ( about, navigation, ext....?)

 

No problem.

Here is a great site for learning CSS, HTML, XHTML, etc

http://w3schools.com

 

to get the candy cane bars on the other side bar, just copy those css declarations into the one for #menu ul h2

[Bob Crabb]

Here are more specific instructions:

 

Find:

>
#menu ul h2
{
background: #860000;
   border: none;
   font-size: 1.0em;
   font-weight: normal;
   padding: 2px;
   margin-bottom: 5px;
text-transform: uppercase; 
text-align: left;		
}

 

Replace with:

 

>
#menu ul h2
{
background: url(images/bgsidebar2.gif) no-repeat bottom center;     
border: none;    
font-size: 1.0em;    
font-weight: normal;    
padding: 2px 0 20px 0;    
margin-bottom: 2px;        
text-transform: uppercase;         
text-align: center;             
}

[glamorouscreations]

thank you, also what type books would be good? i saved that site and will be using it. I appreciate all your help.

[glamorouscreations]

ok, im stuck again, im renaming some of the side bar menu areas, but i cant find the blogroll name area within the php files, where else could it be as I want to rename it? or remove it?

[TCH-Bruce]

Go into the administration panel and select Widgets. You should see it listed there and you should be able to move or rename it there.

[glamorouscreations]

ok im in widgets section and dont see the one that says blogroll sweety?

[TCH-Dick]

It might be labeled "Links"

[glamorouscreations]

i found it, its not under widgets ..its in the admin panel and under links section. I have renamed some

[glamorouscreations]

ok, im stumped again, i am wanting to move some of the links around, like where it says glamorous creations shop, it has home and about, i wanna move them to menu area how do i do that?

[TCH-Bruce]

They are located in the sidebar.php file. You should be able to edit that file. Make a copy of the file before you start changing it.

[glamorouscreations]

Ok, I have that part figured out but for some reason I have an extra candy cane div bar showing at the top right, how do i rid of that 1 lol or maybe move up the menu that says (Glamorous Creations Shop Menu) to the top above that bar but i think either way i will have to rid of 1 of them lol ugh

[glamorouscreations]

Well ive solved that 1 issue, but I would really like to move the area that says (Glamorous Creations Shop Menu) above the shout box and then move the shout box below (Glamorous Creations Shop Menu), like swap there places, and I havent yet figured out how to do that so if anyone knows please please tell me. I am learning alot and with everyones help its so nice to have such wonderful techs.

[TCH-Bruce]

All of this is in the sidebar.php file. If they are widgets you can just drag them around in the widget panel in the administration section.

[glamorouscreations]

I have learned most of this is between 4 diff php files hehehehe, kind weired but is ok, now im trying to figure out how to get the comment section and the 2 sidebar menu areas below the header image, so that the header image is at the top, and the sidebar and comment area is side by side below the header, does any of what im asking make since? I am slowly just playing with settings and stuff but ive done this part all day and cant figure that out . heheheh All help is appreciated.

[glamorouscreations]

i have tried everything and i cant figure out how to get the header image above the sidebar menus and have it all centered, if anyone knows, please help me thank you

[glamorouscreations]

Here is an example of what i am trying hard to do but cant get it to do it, please if anyone knows how help me.

[TCH-Bruce]

You will need to add a new

section that encloses your sidebars. Here's something that may help you. If you aren't using Firefox I would recommend downloading it and also the Web Developer plugin. The plugin will allow you to view the page layout (

structure) and that will help you move things around.

[glamorouscreations]

You will need to add a new <div> section that encloses your sidebars. Here's something that may help you. If you aren't using Firefox I would recommend downloading it and also the Web Developer plugin. The plugin will allow you to view the page layout (<div> structure) and that will help you move things around.

 

ok, where can i find that plugin? ive tried firefox and it messed my system up sweety. Where would I add the div section? If someone can just tell me how to get the header above the sidebars, and stuff I can do it, I went to 4 books stores today and want to really learn this but the books I found wasnt the kind i need. I am just going to upload what I have for now but if and when I figure out or someone is nice to help me get it like that, I will change it. All help people here give me is so very much appreciated . I give thumbs up to all TCH techs.

Bruce and everyone thank you, but if you do knonw how or what codes I need I can add them.

[TCH-Thomas]

Here:

addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/60

[glamorouscreations]

thanks, is that only for firefox? i cant use that on my system firefox did alot of mess on my pc. so i only use IE7

[TCH-Bruce]

The plugin is only for firefox and I don't know how it could have messed up your system with millions of people using it with no issues.

 

As for telling you how to move the image above your sidebars it would be difficult. I would contact who ever wrote the theme and ask them for some help.

[glamorouscreations]

Well, I have contacted her and she wont tell me, she said I would have to repurchase a theme that would have that design, see this design, didnt have a header listed and I added it but I cant get the coding to do right so Im just gonna leave it alone, I have to get my site done and republished. anyhow, tell me what you think of it so far? http://glamorouscreations.com/glamorous-shop/

[TCH-Bruce]

I am not a fan of centered text but other than that it's a nice Christmas theme.

[glamorouscreations]

ok question, see the bottom comment section, how can i maybe get it more to the right instead of where it is? maybe if I can get it moved over to the right some it might look better, also what parts of the text done you like centered, i forgot where it is in the style sheet lol

[TCH-Bruce]

You must have changed it because it's no longer centered and looks fine.

 

To move your comment section over add margin-left: to the commentform section in the style.css file

 

>#commentform input,textarea 
{
   margin-left: 15px;
   background: tranparent;
   border: 1px dashed #860000;
color: #ffffff;
}

 

You can change the pixels to what ever you want.

[glamorouscreations]

also a question, I was wandering, if its at all possible to add a menu div bar type thing above the comment area, like this site has, will pm you u the link.? I dont wanna copy her but I like how she has each comment section div off with a menu bar type thing.

[glamorouscreations]

Help lol, I renamed the post title and for some reason it shows on the right side of my header, ugh, how can I get it to not do that? I want to have a menu bar above where the comment area is but I dont know how to get it to show up? please if someone can help me with this id appreciate it?

[glamorouscreations]

im going to have to redo everything from scratch, grrrr, my calender disappeared even though i didnt mess with it, and that stupid text stuff is still beside my header image, i dont know what has happen but it looks like crap ...grrrrrr

[glamorouscreations]

im redoing the design and the calender still doesnt show up? is something wrong within the server?

[TCH-Thomas]

Nothing should be wrong with the server.

On the other hand I don´t see the theme you have shown us in previous screenshots. Did you remove the theme and now working with the the default theme?

 

Also, when I go to glamorouscreations.com/glamorous-shop/ I get a "Page can not be found". Did you remove the index file or something like that?

[glamorouscreations]

im redoing all of it, I can change the them that has a calender but it doesnt show up. http://glamorouscreations.com/glamorous-shop/

[TCH-Thomas]

If this theme is widget ready, I believe the title "Calendar" should only be visible if you have added the widget "Calendar". So if not added, the title should not show up.

 

If the theme is not widget ready, I believe I have seen the title show, but the actual calendar missing.

 

Try go in to your admin and add the calendar widget (or recheck that it is, if you have already added it).

 

You can also try to make a test post, to see if the message "Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here." goes away. If it does go away, perhaps the calendar gets visible (I have seen this situation once or twice too).

[glamorouscreations]

ok this is weired lol, if there is no posts made, the calender doesnt show, if there is a post the calender shows, why is that? it didnt used to do that?

[samual]

hi dear friend

The distinction between WordPress.com and WordPress.org can cause some confusion for people. Let's clear it up. WordPress.com is brought to you by some of the same folks who work on WordPress, the Open Source blogging software. WordPress.com utilizes the same WordPress software which you can download at WordPress.org. With WordPress.com the hosting and managing of the software is taken care of by the team here at Automattic. With WordPress.org you need to install the software on your own server or with a 3rd party provider.