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I have my username@domainname.ext e-mail address forwarded to my gmail account, and in turn my gmail account is set up to send as though it were coming from my domain name. Spamming being what it is, that results in the actual "From" having that annoying "on behalf of" clause in it. Here's what the gmail folks recently put into place to help with that:

 

Your Gmail address will still be included in your email header's sender field, to help prevent your mail from being marked as spam. Most email clients don't display the sender field, though some versions of Microsoft Outlook may display "From yourusername@gmail.com on behalf of customaddress@****." For this reason, if you don't want 'on behalf of' to appear in any of your messages, we recommend using the SMTP servers of your other email provider.

If you choose to send mail through another domain's SMTP servers:

 

6. Enter the SMTP server (e.g. smtp.domain.com), your username on that domain, and your password for that account. You may also need to adjust your port setting or SSL setting (talk to your other ISP if you need this information).

7. Click Add account >>

8. Open your other account and either click the link in the message Gmail sent or enter the confirmation code in the Accounts section of your Gmail settings.

 

Please note that your other email provider must provide authenticated SMTP support in order for you to use this option. We'll use TLS by default, or SSL if you enable it. Many email services that provide POP or IMAP support also offer authenticated SMTP support, and you can likely find your SMTP server configuration instructions alongside information about POP or IMAP. Also, this new version of custom 'From:' doesn't work with Yahoo! Mail Plus accounts just yet, but we've reached out to Yahoo! to try to get it working.

 

Now, I can see another problem with allowing an external account to send mail through your SMTP server (how to know I'm not just a spammer?) but I thought I'd try it anyway. Alas, I got time outs or authentication failed messages. Attached is a screenshot of the gmail configuration panel I was using. Am I filling it out correctly for domains hosted by TCH, or is the failure related to anti-spam policies preventing this sort of thing at all?

 

Thanks in advance!

Spinny

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Can't help with this particular issue but why not move your mail to be hosted by GMail instead? I have done this for years and never had any issue with it. Just required asking the helpdesk to point my MX entries to point to google... or I believe you can do it yourself through CPanel.

 

This way you don't need external access to your SMTP server and it means you can use GMail as your webclient too

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I believe the problem is of my own making.

 

Last year I set my domain-hosted e-mail account to auto forward to my gmail one, where I've started archiving all my mail. I still had to log in to my domain account periodically and delete the mail that piled up there (since it saves a local copy even when forwarding). When I got tired of doing that I learned that I could have a forwarder in place and delete the actual e-mail account so no mail would accumulate on the server, and I did just that.

 

That means there really isn't an e-mail account to verify against when I try to set up the SMTP re-route, so naturally it fails the check. I'm going to have to live with the "on behalf of" caveat in my e-mail headers, or go back to having mail pile up on my server needing to be purged periodically.

 

Thanks for responding!

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Can't help with this particular issue but why not move your mail to be hosted by GMail instead? I have done this for years and never had any issue with it. Just required asking the helpdesk to point my MX entries to point to google... or I believe you can do it yourself through CPanel.

 

This way you don't need external access to your SMTP server and it means you can use GMail as your webclient too

 

I've actually been using the gmail account to host my e-mails for over a year, now. The issue I had was I did not want outgoing mail to be tagged as coming from gmail--call it vanity or something, but I'd rather have mail shown as coming from my own domain. See my response above for a high-level description of the issues I was having in the past. It appears as though I'll just have to live with the gmail address.

 

Thanks!

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I've actually been using the gmail account to host my e-mails for over a year, now. The issue I had was I did not want outgoing mail to be tagged as coming from gmail--call it vanity or something, but I'd rather have mail shown as coming from my own domain. See my response above for a high-level description of the issues I was having in the past. It appears as though I'll just have to live with the gmail address.

 

Thanks!

 

But.... if you sign up for the free version of Google Apps...and actually register your domain in their system...then it really is not "gmail" any more really. It is just them hosting your email FOR YOUR DOMAIN. Sure..it looks like gmail and exists in the same cloud system but... There is no forwarding involved. Your email goes out from your domain, no mention that your mail is run by google apps.

 

When someone sends you an email it will still be sent to your email address at your domain...but google does the catching and the hosting and the storage of it. It no longer will be stored on your server at all.

 

Added benefit is that you have access to all of the other google apps/gears stuff. Docs, calendar etc. in a way that is branded and linked and admin'd with your domain name.

 

Do a search on "google apps for my domain" and then "Free version of google apps".

Register your domain name..prove it is yours..register all of your (exact) email addresses in your new google account...redirect your mail (MX) to google...and you are sitting pretty.

 

Create a CNAME record "mail" that points to ghs.google.com. and you can then access your login page from any browser by simply typing "mail.yourdomainname.com". Very clean.

Then, when you can get an android phone...link it via google gears to your google apps ...and be really slick.

 

Sorry if I misunderstood your problem...but this semd a logical step to me. You just have to commit to having them handle all of your email. No downside that I have found yet.

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Okay, tried this and the process is not making sense. Where do I set a Cname? There's nothing in the cpanel and a search on cname turns up nothing. Google doesn't list totalchoice among the services it provides help for. I can find where to set the mx addresses but that's all.

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Just a follow-up in case anyone stumbles across this thread with the same questions I had...

 

It works great! You get full IMAP, even across Thunderbird and the BlackBerry e-mail client (the latter just for deletes, though). Once the fine folks at TCH did the CNAME for me (took only minutes after my request) and I remembered to enable the new URL within the Google Apps cpanel, I was all set.

 

If you want to migrate your old e-mail to the new system (and have some time to kill) it's as simple as dragging your "local folders" full of POPped mail up and dropping them onto your new account. Everything uploads onto the Google Apps server thanks to the magic of IMAP and now you have it available online from anywhere. Bear in mind your quota is just over 7GB so if you're a pack rat with your e-mail you could have issues.

 

Many thanks for all the help and advice I got during this process, you guys rock.

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