m3avrck Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 www.selfpromotion.com Excellent site for submitting your site to various search engines. Tons of recommendations and help, highly recommended. Note, this site can't submit your site to all search engines, due to new policies and fees creeping into many search engines, but this is still nonetheless, a great way to get your site out there to some smaller sites to help boost traffic. [edited by D. Scott Demmin; removed direct link (left reference)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEO Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 M3avrk: I edited you post to remove the direct link. Sorry, but we are pretty picky about who we direct link to (even in these forums). I will say that this is not a bad reference (and there are a lot that are!)... there is some usefull information that our family members can benefit from. Not all the information is accurate (e.g. Google, updates on a 4 week cycle). However, the site is not promoting spam techniques and does contain a lot of usual inforamtion, so I have no problem reccomending the reference. Thank you for finding it. I would like to add, that I do not reccomend any automatic submit program (even to the smaller indecies). They do clearly state "...it does not autosubmit to the major indexes..." which is good (i.e. they understand the process). I am very critical in analyisis so the 'good' things I am saying about this site should be noted. However, for a site that is marketed for web site promotioin, they certainly are not ranked very well (they have a Google PageRank of 2 ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3avrck Posted August 6, 2003 Author Share Posted August 6, 2003 Hi! May I ask why you guys are picky about what sites you direct link to? I didn't think these forums were accessible to bots. Anyways, I'm just curious because well, you can't learn if you don't ask questions And as for the pagerank, I just noticed that too. That is very interesting. As for submitting to the smaller search engines automatically, do you consider this a bad thing? I figure I can spend 15 min on this site and submit to a bunch of smaller search engines no problem, even if the amount of traffic that generates is only 1-2%. Then again, as more and more search engines start charging fees and disabling automatic submissions, maybe the above effort is done in vein. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEO Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 Well I was going to show via a 'm3avrck' Google search but you are too new here (not yet indexed). You are on forums.devshed.com though. However, for here, how about Head Guru? So, we do give sites 'credit' and thus discriminate certain links. As for submitting to the smaller search engines automatically, do you consider this a bad thing? No, I would not categorize it as 'bad'. I just have a general policy of not recommending it. That would be based on many factors including the one you are eluding too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onlinehelper Posted August 9, 2003 Share Posted August 9, 2003 m3avrck if you really want to submit for free, then try a good company like: www.servicewrap.net/freewebsitepromotion.html Then will promote you for a small banner or link on your site. Here is one more: www.indiainternetmarketing.com (I am not related with them so do not worry). [edited by D. Scott Demmin, removed direct links to the two pages referenced above] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3avrck Posted August 13, 2003 Author Share Posted August 13, 2003 www.servicewrap.net/freewebsitepromotion.html Then will promote you for a small banner or link on your site. Here is one more: www.indiainternetmarketing.com Hi Onlinehelper, thanks for the reply! Looking over the two you sites you listed, I am a bit weary of actually following through with either of those sites. The reason being is that they seem like spam sites just collecting emails and offering little or no services at all. What caught my eye was the fact that they guaranteed top 10 results in search engines like Google and AOL, and they offered this for FREE, so long as you provided an email. In addition, the first site listed mentions posting a banner linking to their site on somewhere on your site. For achieving top placement in search engines, this is definetly not a good idea, and it just seems like clutter for any website. However, since I have not tried those sites, I cannot fully support my claim, however, the feeling I get from those sites is not the best one. In contrast, I have been using selfpromotion.com for a few years now and can attest that I have not received any spam from the site and that it does work well for what it offers (essentially submission to multiple search engines and a few tips). Does it work the best? Hard to say, but for the amount of time it requires (very little), it doesn't hurt to try (at least in my research, if anyone has any different opinions on this site, please post them). For more information on why certain SEO websites and companies might be good or bad, check out this great article: google.com/webmasters/seo.html(dsdemmin I removed the link for ya ) [edited by D. Scott Demmin; added direct link to Google Article, which is well worth reading... not promotional; I have qouted from this more then once within these forums. Thumbs Up ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikillyouscum Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 To back up a second, because I too am just curious. Can (or should I say does) Google (or wherever) spider message boards? I did just notice on the main index page where it lists who's online it listed "GoogleBot". But that was just that page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEO Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 ikillyouscum: ...um do not really like your forum name Welcome to the forum though. Yes, a properly set-up forum can be spidered and indexed. Googlebot has visited 11,800 pages here since July 3... seems to really like us. He actually visits every single day. In addition, most of the pages within this forum are in the Google index. Hope this answers your question and again welcome. P.S. Maybe a name change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicfrisk Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 ikillyouscum: ...um do not really like your forum name Welcome to the forum though. Yes, a properly set-up forum can be spidered and indexed. Googlebot has visited 11,800 pages here since July 3... seems to really like us. He actually visits every single day. In addition, most of the pages within this forum are in the Google index. Hope this answers your question and again welcome. P.S. Maybe a name change? how do you "properly" set up a forum - that's where I'm a little stuck.... agree with you on the name change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikillyouscum Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Fine I'll apease the masses. I'm so used to this name I don't think about it (FYI it's a referance to the Simpsons not a death threat:) And thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEO Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Fine I'll apease the masses.Thank you And thanks for the info. You bet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEO Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 how do you "properly" set up a forum - that's where I'm a little stuck.... Well the easy way.... use (or upgrade) to Invision Board v1.2, it is spider friendly. The other option is to use mod rewrite to remove session ids, the nasty ?, & and = and the long url names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCH-Sales Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Well the easy way.... use (or upgrade) to Invision Board v1.2, it is spider friendly. I would sugest not to upgrade to Invision Board v.1.2 yet because many issues with the upgrade are still buggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEO Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Total Choice is using IBP v1.2 (RC 1), not v1.2 Final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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