Head Guru Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I am moving to a new OS on all my Pc's in my home network. I thought this would be a good topic to discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCH-Bruce Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I run Windows XP but only because that's what I use at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCH-Terri Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Just WindowsXP for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayson Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 windozes Xp home and Professossional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btrfld Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 WindowsXP on my work machine, because it's what I'm used to. But. I'm writing this on my personal Linux machine. I do hope to 86 Windows eventually, once I really learn how to control this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeJ Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Ubuntu Linux on my laptop. Works great except for some multimedia functionality (like flash for Linux is behind so some flash sites don't work, some codecs can be a pain to get working, etc...) and suspend/hibernate functionality can be a pain. Other than that, though, it works beautifually for the stuff I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevevan Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Combinations of Fedora, Ubuntu, Windows XP, and Win2k on various machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deverill Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Microsoft's evil. I only use Windows XP at home on my main machine because of a couple of apps. One is a game I like (City of Heroes) a lot and another is MS Publisher for a daycare newsletter because that's what they have and they want to be able to make final edits in case I mess up a name or something. Those 2 things alone are why I'm with Windows. My laptop is running Ubuntu Linux and has been for almost a year. If I could do everything I need/want to while working with everyone I must, I'd switch to Linux in a heartbeat. I tried dual boot for awhile but it seemed I was in XP for something and it was just too much trouble to restart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeJ Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I tried dual boot for awhile but it seemed I was in XP for something and it was just too much trouble to restart. Couple options for you... Pretty well rated: http://www.parallels.com/ Coming from Microsoft in the future even which could be intriguing: http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/10/17/yourmoney/msft.php Then there's your obvious wine, vmware, and other "windows emulation" products you can run on Linux with some level of usability, but not as good performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deverill Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Thanks Mike! Nothing like knowing one's options! Bill, it's like "what computer should I buy?" questions - it depends on your technical level (not a prob for you), your must haves, your wanna haves and your sense of adventure in learning something new. I will say that there are very few things that don't have Linux counterparts unless you need to collaborate with others using Windows so feel free to experiment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makaveli Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 i use windows XP on laptop used to be Prof and Home its now both home edition. for my multimedia design i use a mac with OSx 10.4 tiger. ranging from g4's to g5's i much prefer the mac but its not viable for home a- beacuse of cost b-compatibility with other apps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCH-Carl Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 PC -> Fedora Core 5, Mandriva, XP(not used that for some time) Laptop -> Mandriva, XP... waiting for 64 bit OS.. Linux ofcourse.. did not get my hands on it yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_Rob Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Win XP because of City of Heroes. Taking all my time lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCH-Vivek Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Linux.. linux and linux only. I use Mandriva in my laptop and CentOS in my desktop. I have Windows XP Home in my desktop. But, I use it only for checking my APC backup and testing FrontPage extensions issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCH-Tom Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 LINUX again I use Fedora Core 5 and Windows XP Home ( FrontPage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCH-Andy Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Linux (ubuntu) although I have dual boot, and haven't convinced the family away from windows for their machines yet (but I haven't tried very hard). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prel Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 07 PC´s with Windows XP PRO 02 Notebook´s with Windows XP PRO 01 Pc with Suse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajunman4life Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Windows on 2 laptops. FreeBSD on every other machine in the house. BSD all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyguy Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 2 with Win XP Pro for everyday use 1 with Win 2k that holds my backups 1 with CentOS as web/ftp server 1 with Debian for home automation apps I'm not partial to Windows or Linux either way, they both have their uses. It's easy enough these days to mix and match anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Guru Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 Breakdown of my home network: Fileserver running Xandros Linux Backup Server running W2k Server Wife's Laptop is Widows XP pro My main work PC is running Madriva Linux My laptop is on Mandriva Linux Son's PC running Mandriva Linux Daughter's PC running Windows XP home Mail Server running Win 2003 Server / Exchange (Slated to move to Mandriva) Monitoring PC (Personal view into TCH) running Windows XP Professional Mac Ibook using Tiger OS (Mac OS X) I am in a full migration to Linux. It is my goal by the end of October to not have one Windows based PC in my house. I am tired of funding the Gates empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonize Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Windows XP both home and pro. I have no reason to use Linux as my main OS but I do have a copy of Knoppix on DVD that I can boot into when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makaveli Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 its a shame all those years ago apple lost their foot in the operating systems war, i really would love a mac but a lot of things wont work or i'd have to spend a lot of cash getting new software which buying a different OS copy of what i own seems a pointless endevaour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Guru Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 Apple did loose their footing in the OS war. However, the switch has begun in earnest. 1.33 million Mac's were sold last fiscal quarter. 17 million Visitors walked thru the many Apple Outlet Stores 50% of buyers were NEW to the Mac OS 13% of the Laptop market is now owned by Apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonize Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 (edited) 17 million Visitors walked thru the many Apple Outlet Stores 16,999,999 of these left after purchasing an iPod 50% of buyers were NEW to the Mac OS 50% of 10 is 5. In my experience statistics don't mean a thing as they are always carefully worded so they appear to mean something they usually do not. Edited October 20, 2006 by carbonize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Guru Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 50% of 1.33 million is 5 ? Another great example of public schooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCH-JimE Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 I actually run serveral versions of windows and dos, mostley because I like my old games! However, if you just want a neat computer to browse the web, write a letter and do media items, the Mac is the buisness JimE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tohaet Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 (edited) Laptop Windows XP Home, 20% of the runtime is spent in this, and 80% on Slackware Linux. Desktop Windows XP Professional, 70% of the runtime is spent in this, 30% on Slackware Linux. I have great development tools in both. Although plenty of GUI tools are available, i tend to use more CLI based tools in Linux, but with a similar or higher productivity rate of using the GUI tools in Windows. Because of the open source nature of Linux, if something goes terribly wrong, chances are you, or somebody else in the large user base, can track this error down more easily than filing a support claim, at a great expense, with Microsoft. For example, I had a ASP.NET bug that Microsoft wouldn't listen to until they got some money out of our company! Turned out it was a bug in the framework after all. Windows has it's many uses, I am not saying it's all bad, GUI side, things just look better in Windows, fonts are a major issue for me in Linux. Apple caused their own failure in a couple of ways. My main hatred of Apple is price fixing. Apple dictate the prices stores will sell at if they expect to be continued to receive supplies (on desktops/laptops/mini etc...). This practice should be illegal. Another failing is that when they started, it was difficult for anybody who wasn't Apple licenced to write and distribute software, which meant less software, at a high cost, compared to more software at a lower cost for other platforms. Apple succeed in their IPOD venture, not because of a great product, but because of fashion/trend conscious people who just have to have what their friends have. When certain IPODs where released in europe, their screens broke, they failed to work, and Apple refused to listen! You can buy what an ipod does from many other brands, at half the price. State Schooling is the way forward, it works in the UK very very very well, if only other countries could see the light and the way to socialism, they would also produce quality people and products. Edited October 20, 2006 by tohaet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Guru Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 Good points on several issues, other issues I do not agree with. The Ipod is a great success because of the way it was designed. Period. It is the most fundamentally sound Mp3 player I have ever used. It's great sucess had nothing to do with "trends". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makaveli Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 (edited) mp3 players were nothing new, the old creative ones were a bit huge and "brick like" so people didnt want them basically what apple did was made a "pretty looking" brick which may of not had all the functionality of its rivals. but it looked good, peopel bought it. in my opinion say an ipod mini is rubbish for a lower price you can get a better higher capacity creative zen micro, with better battery life and sound. so to a degree ipods sell cause they are the "in thing" many people i bet buy apple pc's cause they look nice, not cause they understand what a mac is. i like how macs run, the OS is well designed and crash free, i dont care about "the box" a smy pc just sits in a corner computing as it should. no need for fancy lights or things saying that i like silly lights i have a usb lava lamp and a changign colour mouse lol Edited October 21, 2006 by makaveli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmanmcp Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 All Desktops and Laptops here are XP. Except for the old ones in the back room which are older versions of Windows. And of course MY Desktop is running Vista 50% of the time...got to get up to speed before all the crys for help come streaming in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmanmcp Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Hmmm, my picture is gone...wonder if Prodigy finally deep sixed that web server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deverill Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 saying that i like silly lights i have a usb lava lamp and a changign colour mouse lol A mood mouse? lol Apple messed up from the beginning when they decided no clones. It shut them down at a time they could have become huge... in the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makaveli Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 yep a "mood mouse" made by Targus. and as for apple they had the right idea, that being only apple products can be sold and made by apple. that is also how pc's took off, there is not just on make of pc. its open. although apple do get a bit of money everytime someone uses firewire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCH-Dick Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 yep a "mood mouse" made by Targus. I purchased this same mouse for my notebook (guess I should have read the package) and it drove me nuts. I still use it but its annoying when in a darkened room. So I'm on the right subject, my notbook is running XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCH-Tina Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 I am working on a dual boot machine with Fedora Core4 and Windows XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesh Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 XP Home on 2 computers - one is dual-boot with Windows 98, which I need for my film scanner, XP Pro on the third Laptop (486 Thinkpad) runs DOS and XTREE as the file manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silica Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 1978 - 1984 Apple OS 1984-1996 Mac OS 1996-2004 Windows OS 2004- present Mac OS X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Guru Posted October 22, 2006 Author Share Posted October 22, 2006 1978 - 1984 Apple OS1984-1996 Mac OS 1996-2004 Windows OS 2004- present Mac OS X What made you switch in 1996 to Windows? What made you go back to Mac OS in 2004? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silica Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 What made you switch in 1996 to Windows? What made you go back to Mac OS in 2004? I switched to Windows because my wife's business needed to use Windows and compatibilty between OS's was not at the current level. I supported both OS's for about 3 years, but finally became tired of doing that, so in 1996, I switched to Windows myself. My wife still uses a WinXP computer, but in 2004 I finally said enough and, for my personal/business computer, went back to the Mac. Now two years later I'm not at all sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makaveli Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 my next computer purchase is likely to be mac. perhaps an laptop. anyways today i tried to sample ubuntu linux, (live cd) unfortunally it seemed it did not like my system, which was a shame id loved to try it. my freind is using some linux or the other (ill have to ask him) due to be sick of windows. linux does look great for free, i do like the idea of "lindows" which is a mix of windows and linux, i dont know if they do this one anymore. if you want a quick insight into linux you can download DSL (damn small linux) (i know silly name) its about 32mb and just a nice preview to see what the fuss is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonize Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Lindows obviously gave up on that idea and is now called Linspire. By all accounts it's rubbish. Another good way of trying linux is Knoppix as it boots from CD/DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Guru Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 I think the best distro for Windows CONverts is Xandros. It is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makaveli Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 i found a derivation on Ubuntu, Kubuntu. i really like linux from what little i have used. unfortunally it wont support my graphics card anything higher than 800*600 which is odd (i have a 256mb card) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abinidi Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I just joined the Linux world last week. I started with Ubutntu, but I couldn't get the libraries I needed to run the Linux version of my company's application, so yesterday I downloaded Fedora Core 5 and installed it this morning. Here's the sweet thing: My desktop dual boots Fedora Core 5 and Windows XP. My laptop (which splits its screen onto a dual monitor) is running WinXP. I installed Synergy (open source; check out sourceforge.com for info) on both my desktop and my laptop, so I have three screens from two separate computers and only one mouse and keyboard. When move my mouse off my Windows screen towards my Linux screen, the mouse rolls over onto the Linux box and the keyboard and mouse work on that machine. When I move it back to the left, it rolls back onto the Windows box. It works for both my Linux and Windows boots. I absolutely love it. Now I need to learn more about Linux (Fedora in particular). (Note: I recognize that Fedora Core 6 was released today; however, we aren't supporting it yet with our app, so I won't upgrade to core 6 until we do.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpry Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 My family and I have been using Mac's since 1997. We've never had a Mac die on us, although we put the original Mac we purchased in 97 to sleep. I have to say - the Mac ads with the PC and Mac guy are hilarious though - aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtvoyles Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 I've got Kubuntu Edgy dual-booting with WinXP. It's been a year with Kubuntu as the primary OS, and I have to say that Win only gets used on the rare occasion I want to watch a video or something in Flash. I must point out that while Ubuntu/Kubuntu are pretty polished, they have a long way to go before being as "stupid-friendly" as Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deverill Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Something to think about: Is Windows "stupid friendly" or just what we have come to know through casual encounters with it? Ex: double click? Click the Start button to shut down? and a bazillion others. If we never had Windows and only had, say, Ubuntu, would it be considered "stupid friendly"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtvoyles Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Perhaps it is actually related to the fact that more people HAVE encountered Win, and that my 4 year old picked up on how to use the system. If a 4 year old can pick up how to use it, obviously normally considered "stupid" people could make it as well. I'm just trying to say that Win is very intuitive and universal. I'll give you "double-click", that one blows my mind. However, when you use the Start menu to do anything, it's kind of hard to miss the shutdown or log-off buttons while you're there. That makes it intuitive since you will see it every time you go to use that menu. Also, Win has not once given me a dependency error, misconfigured X, made me compile from source, or any of the other 45 errors that linux has from time to time. I know I'm just rehashing points that we see over and over as to why linux hasn't taken off, but I just wanted to counter with how many issues one has versus the other. Not trying to be a jerk or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCH-Bruce Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Ex: double click? Click the Start button to shut down? and a bazillion others. Double click? I have changed my settings so I only have to click once. Click Start button to shutdown? No, I changed that too. Press the power button and it shuts down as if I did. (it's in the power settings if you didn't know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyguy Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I prefer the double click. On single click setups I tend to accidentally open things I don't want. As for the Start menu, you can change that to say whatever you want, if you feel like digging. If those are your biggest complaints about Windows you're doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deverill Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Also, Win has not once given me a dependency error, misconfigured X, made me compile from source, or any of the other 45 errors that linux has from time to time. How about "Windows has encountered an error and must close"? I get a lot of that at work. I've seen blown user profiles making a system useless, spyware that makes the whole system useless, just today I saw an un-updated Office crash out every time it opened an email with a photo in it because the OS made some changes. It's all relative I guess. I never compiled my linux from source - ever. Every system has errors. I just wanted to make the point that what we consider intuitive is only so because we've used Windows or been exposed to it in TV programs, commercials, copy-cat game sytems, etc. If you take someone who has never seen a computer they'd be as much at a loss with Windows, Mac and Linux - none are truly intuitive... it's just what we've been exposed to in our day-to-day lives. Obligatory on-topic comment: Since Bill is a guru he'd be fine with any of them. I'd say Linux is the most stable (and apparently Apple agrees since OSX is based on it) as long as it has the programs or clones of the programs he wants to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJB Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I run Windows XP X64 on my one and only computer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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