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Posted

Hello all.

 

I have been using and uploading for front page fora few years now although I am new to total choice hosting it is pretty much set up like my old hosting so I don't know why I am having so many probelms

 

When uploading it upload to the main file manager instead of the public html folder. When I go to publish I move the the folders I want to upload to the public html which is on the right of the window but it still puts it in the main file folder.

 

Is it supose to do that. Ok also it is not uploading everthing in the folders. I played around with this for sevearl hours. I didn't have this problem with my old host . All I had to do was upload it and it went into the public html and it uploaded it all the first time then of coarse only new pages after that.

 

Now although I have my domain transfered it has not transfered yet so I am wondering if it is doing this because it is not transfered yet and I am using the c-panel link that was sent to me if domain transfer has not been switched.

 

Do you think this could be a cause. I was hoping to get everything upload and taken care of so there is no down time to my site.

 

I have read that new host can transfer everthing for you. I am wondering if I go and delete all I have uploaded if I should just have them do that but how do I go about having them do that. I have always just re-uploaded from front page if I switch host.

 

I have alot of files and 77 folder.

 

Any suggestion you can give me would be grateful. One of the things I like about this host is is basicly set up like my old one.

 

Oh one more thing now I did not have to copy background and image to each folder on my old host and I am noticing that some images don't show up so do I have to make sure that the backgrounds and banners and stuff are in each folder with this host.

 

Patty

Way2Kool Designs

Posted

I'm not a frontpage user, but my first thought is I wonder if you are filling out the site description fields correctly. While I don't know what they look like in Front Page, I know that in Dreamweaver when you are entering your FTP information, there is something called "remote folder" or similar. In that folder you have to enter: /public_html/ so that Dreamweaver knows where to start uploading your files.

 

I assume FrontPage has something similar where you can tell it what folder on the site is your main folder where you upload your files.

 

There are many web hosts who don't allow you to have access to anything higher than your public_html folder, so because TCH gives you more access, you'll have to set this manually.

 

Maybe somebody who knows more about Front Page can give you more info than that.

 

Welcome to the family and welcome to the forums!! :)

Posted
Now although I have my domain transfered it has not transfered yet so I am wondering if it is doing this because it is not transfered yet and I am using the c-panel link that was sent to me if domain transfer has not been switched.

 

That might be part of it. The publist feature may not be responding like it should when going to the IP address. Depends on what version of FP you are using. Once you can publish via the name and not IP address it should put things in the right place as well.

Posted

Welcome to the forums. As Rob stated, versions prior to FP2002 (I think) do not allow you to publish to a name. If you just tranferred your info to TCH, I'd wait a little bit longer and see what happens. In the meantime, make sure your settings in FP are all correct.

 

[sidenote]

While FP is a good program to get websites going quickly, I think you'll find that you will have an easier time if you migrated away. I started out using FP98, then went to 2000. Once my curiousity got the better of me, I started dabbling in writing my own HTML. Now I use an application that writes straight HTML without all of the Microsoft-added stuff. You can find several of these programs for free on the web.

[/sidenote]

 

I hope you made a backup of your data before deleting anything and starting the transfer to TCH. :) And lastly, as an added level of security, I'd make sure that you do not have any folders with 777 permissions.

 

Again, welcome to the forums and family!

Posted

Thank you for all your input.

 

I have Front Page 2002 that came with Microsoft Office. I have all my folders now in the public html section and when viewing from them it ok. It still had uploaded some files to the main file manager folder but I deleted those. The files that did not upload I uploaded from the file manager.

 

I just switch over my domain name yesterday so I still have 24 to 48 hours before it takes affect so hopefully that was the problem

 

 

Steve:

 

I did not make backup files on my old host. But I didnt transfer any files from there. I uploading them from a folder on my computer. I have never really used backup on the host. I have a burnt copy of my web folder.

 

Is it really important to backup on the host? I have notice that when viewing my site live now which would comes from my old host that images are missing and pages are not working. I am hoping that it will fix it self once the domain is transfered. (I hope :) Since they are working when viewing from there.

 

I am starting to learn a little bit of html from adding scripts and stuff in. But not a whole lot yet. Would love to learn it. But right now Publisher and Authors are keeping me so busy I don't know when I would find the time. But would love to learn in the near future

 

I work with graphic mainly.

 

What did you mean by this:

 

added level of security, I'd make sure that you do not have any folders with 777 permissions.

 

Doyou mean like password protected pages or what. Right now I have none. The 77 folders are sub folders in my web document on my computer. I like to keep things organized for easy finding, so I make sub folders for different subjects. And of coarse upload it that way to the host as well.

 

Any way I will wait until Wednesday night or Thursday and see what happen when my domain is transfered.

Like I said earlier one of the reasons I pick Total Choice hosting is because c-panel is close and the file managment is about the same. Another reason is because of this forum lol So I can get help

 

So thank you for your input.

 

Oh one more thing:

 

When uploading from front page it keeps telling me that Bash files are on the web but not in my folder and wants to know if I want it removed from the web. I have been telling it no. I have those files on my old host but that question has never can up for those. Should I copy the files into my web folder on my computer so it stops asking me or what.

 

Patty

Posted

Patty,

 

I forgot to welcome you here so let me do that now. A few things. First, if you are seeing images as "little red x" symbols then check your links to them, see where they are pointing and change it to point to where they are in your main images folder. No need to have the same image all over the place.

 

I think Steve saw that you had 77 folders and thought you may have said the permissions were all sevens. I can't say for sure, I don't really understand him that much. I would concentrate on getting your site working properly first and then we can discuss security. No meed to overwhelm you all at once.

 

If you have a local copy, that should be good enough. When you start coding on the server, if you do or have databases or scripts then you will want to back up from the server to your computer. No need to do that till you graduate from FP or start using other tools.

 

If you want to, you can PM me and I can look at the site and maybe see where things are going wrong. It is up to you, no pressure, just offering a little help where I can.

 

As to the Bash question, I am not sure. I have not seen that one before so I will wait to see if anyone else has an answer. Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Posted

Thanks Steve,

 

You have been very kind. Normally I don't have problems with publishing from Front Page So I think it could be that I am using the temporary link to my C-panel that may be the cause. So I will just wait a couple of days and see what happens then.

 

I have mainly just used the file manager from the c-panel. But since I have joined Total Choice I have been checking out the different options in the c-panel.

 

I design book covers for authors but have just started building web pages and web site for them. So I really need to learn what the other function of the c-panel does.

 

I really like the idea of this forum being here. So If I have questions or need answer I can get them.

 

As far as the bash file goes I never really notice them before but went and look at my old host and they are there to. It has to something to do with log in and out because there is like 4 of them I think and they have log in and log out on them. I am wondering if it also has to do with the domain transfer.

 

Who knows. But hopefully everything will be ok by Thursday as far as uploading goes. As far as linking and image not showing up I know how to fix that. Like I said it find on total choice but not my old host viewing it live.

 

Thanks so much Steve for answering my quesitons for me. And thanks for the welcome

 

Patty

Posted
I did not make backup files on my old host. But I didnt transfer any files from there. I uploading them from a folder on my computer. I have never really used backup on the host. I have a burnt copy of my web folder.

 

Is it really important to backup on the host?

That would depend upon how valuable your data is. My personal opinion is to always make a weekly backup. Of course, I'm speaking from experience on this! :) (Long story.) Using CPanel, you can make a backup of your data and FTP it to your computer if you desire. That way, if the rare and unthinkable server hard drive crash happens, you've got your own backup that the TCH techs can use to restore your site.

 

What did you mean by this:

 

added level of security, I'd make sure that you do not have any folders with 777 permissions.

As Rob pointed out, I misread your post. (It was towards the end of a long and busy day!) Your organization of your site should be fine!

Any way I will wait until Wednesday night or Thursday and see what happen when my domain is transfered.

Like I said earlier one of the reasons I pick Total Choice hosting is because c-panel is close and the file managment is about the same. Another reason is because of this forum lol So I can get help

If your old host is using CPanel, you could also drop a help desk ticket (link above) to the techs and they can do a CPanel to CPanel transfer for you.
When uploading from front page it keeps telling me that Bash files are on the web but not in my folder and wants to know if I want it removed from the web. I have been telling it no. I have those files on my old host but that question has never can up for those. Should I copy the files into my web folder on my computer so it stops asking me or what.

I'll have to defer this question to someone who is more knowledgable in using FP.

 

I think Steve saw that you had 77 folders and thought you may have said the permissions were all sevens. I can't say for sure, I don't really understand him that much.

:) Gotta love Rob!

Posted

Welcome to the forum, Patty :)

For me your domain has switched over to Totalchoicehosting

So you may want to try publishing to the domain name and make a slight change.

And be sure you are using /public_html/ in your settings for remote directory if that is a setting in FP.

Posted

Hello, Everyone

 

First let me say thanks all for the warm welcome. What a nice feeling it is to have so many of you welcome me.

 

Now some good news. My site is working and up and running. Hot Diggy Dog lol :)

 

It looks like the problem was with the temporary c-panel link. My domain name got transfered. I went and published from Front Page using my domain link and it went though fine and showing up where it is supose to show up. And not where it not supose to show up.

 

 

When I first publish it still had ask me about the bash files. But I have worked on a copy of pages after that and uploaded again and it didnt ask me. So that is fine too.

 

Thanks everyone for being so helpfull.

 

Patty

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Im back, with more problems did you miss me lol

 

ok I am having problems uploading from front page again. It all uploads like it supose to then at the end and box comes up saying it couldnt upload to contact server and make sure that front page extensions are installed, which I have installed a couple of times now. Now it has been uploading to my site anyway even with that error but today it is not.

 

Have any ideas. I am using front page 2002

Posted

This may sound silly, but the silliest questions are the most often overlooked. Have you made any changes, other than to the content of the page? In CPanel perhaps? When you try to upload, are you seeing data transfer (in the little icon at the bottom of your window or your modem lights?)

 

On a side note, since you're still having quite a bit of difficulty, have you researched other HTML editors? I know there are several free ones out there that don't require a steep learning curve.

Posted

I recently went through a similar process.

 

I needed to publish to TCH prior to transfering the DNS entries. existing site and wanted little interuptions. Also did not have TCH transfer the site as I wanted to start clean.

 

Using FP 2000 I was able to publish prior to DNS transfer.

 

First verify FP extensions are installed by logging into CPANEL (they were by default on my site).

 

To Publish using FP 2000.

 

click Publish Button. Make sure to publish "all files" not just "the changed ones".

 

Destination use IP_Address/public_html

 

userid: CPANEL Userid & Password.

 

this will upload the site.

 

Watch out - if you use a location other than public_html it will create a directory with that name.

 

To test IP_Address/~cpanel_userid and the site should come up ready for testing.

 

Once tested make the DNS changes and within a day or two you are up and transferred. It was very smooth for me.

 

Todd Van Buren :(

www.agilitymb.ca (TCH for one day now)

www.agilityphotos.com (TCH for awhile)

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