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Ok for me I love FrontPage because I know it like the back of my hand I can design a site of about 25 pages in about 8 hours complete including graphics and every thing else you can think of :D

 

I want to learn dreamweaver this is one of the reasons I got an account here I know the basics but I want to know it like my other hand :lol:

 

 

Golive is cool to I know the basics of it but the layout of the program is kind of crowed for my taste ;)

 

Now you know all the editors I use

oh and the first editor I used is Netscape composer 4x :blink:

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Mr_Lucas,

 

I am moving this post to our software talk forum as I believe everyone that comes here could benefit from the reasons why we use what we use.

 

I am partial to a text editor for my PHP coding, dont really do much else at the moment.

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I'm in the same predicament you are. I really need some of Frontpage's features, which is why I've stuck with it.

 

I have to use includes.

 

But what if I could use a search and replace program to do the same thing?

 

And would my best move be to upgrade to the latest Frontpage, or just leave it altogether? Remember that I have a site with a few hundred pages, all riddled with includes.

 

Oh, and I started coding in Notepad!

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I never liked Frontpage because of the tons of extra crap it added to the code. Mad!!! I started out on Netscape Composer, tried Frontpage, hated it, and went to Dreamweaver (which I love!). This is now what I use at work and at home.

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I never liked Frontpage because of the tons of extra crap it added to the code.

Amen! ;)

 

I also prefer DreamWeaver, because it's by far the most standards compliant of them all. And I also find it easier to use.

 

About frontpage, I wouldn't even call that a web page editor. It's just a simple Microsoft document editor, because it's crappy "html" code doesn't work correctly anywhere else but in Internet Explorer... ;)

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I use Dreamweaver. Started out with Frontpage because it was all I had. I also think that FP writes horrible code. It is very easy to go into Dreamweaver's code view and write ALL your code if you choose, or just clean up what it wrote for you. I use the MX version...wish I had the MX 2004 version if for no other reason than it offers "code hints" when writing CSS, just like it does for HTML.

 

All in all if you are going to spend money and start with something new...I'd go for DWMX 2004!!!

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Well, I learned HTML with a text editor, moved to FP and thought it was great for site management. Then realized it was adding so much overhead I dropped it for my text editor. I still code in a *nix text editor but also use HTML-kit.

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I started with text editors wayyy back. That was good but it's so much nicer to see on the screen what things look like as you're adding them.

 

I used Frontpage and left it for the same reasons of added crap. I hear it is very much better now than before about that but I don't like the way they do the navbar things.

 

I love Dreamweaver MX04 because it gives me lots of nice tools such as on-screen CSS rendering and templates, as well as the power I want to do what I want when I want.

 

The bottom line is that everyone has a favorite, some love WYSIWYG and others hate it, everyone's situation is different because of what they need and any tool can be good for a certain use. The best thing to do is get the free trials, one at a time, use them for the whole period and see what you like the best.

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I use the MX version...wish I had the MX 2004 version if for no other reason than it offers "code hints" when writing CSS, just like it does for HTML.
Tracy, MX 2004 does a lot more than just that. It has far better support for CSS and a bunch of other things <_<

Check it here:

http://macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/productinfo/newfeatures/

 

By the way, I forgot to mention that I use Bluefish for writing code (http://bluefish.openoffice.nl).

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Yes, the java buttons that are so cool and so awesome that they will take over the world except that:

They are java.

They are very limited in where they can go.

They are hard to make behave.

They look like everyone else's buttons.

 

<_<

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I'm in the same predicament you are. I really need some of Frontpage's features, which is why I've stuck with it.

 

I have to use includes.

I've never used FP to create a site or source code, so pardon my ignorance. You use a lot of includes ... are there includes that FP has that can't be duplicated in PHP? Here at work, I do have to use FP to include a date and time on my pages because we don't have PHP on our servers. So in order to get the date and time of the most recent file update to display on a page, I have to use a FP date include and reopen my source code in FP to get the date to update. I make all my changes in Crimson Editor or Textpad, but at the end of each session, I open each file and resave using FP just to get the date and time to update. Talk about stupid...

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Yes, the java buttons that are so cool and so awesome that they will take over the world except that:

They are java.

They are very limited in where they can go.

They are hard to make behave.

They look like everyone else's buttons.

 

:)

You got that right, Jim. Thumbs Up

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I don't use PHP unless the page calls for it. It uses more server resources. That's not an issue on a small, low traffic site. And I don't sweat it when it's necessary, like on my forum. But I'd rather not use several includes per page in PHP, which is what would happen if I went straight from Frontpage's includes to PHP includes. My site has a lot of traffic, and static pages are an advantage, in my opinion.

 

Also, I'm not sure if my old server even had PHP, so it wasn't even an issue before. EDIT: I don't think it had MySQL, so I never bothered getting into PHP. It might have worked for regular pages, don't know.

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I'm still working on my website with FrontPage 2003.

Just out of curiousity here, Dreamweaver (MX2004) seems to be the choice.

I need to go look up info on Dreamweaver but maybe someone can answer me with alittle of the basics.

I know nothing of coding, I let FP do that. Can a newbie like me work with Dreamweaver? I guess what I'm saying is I just put things like I like them in FP and it does the rest. Does Dreamweaver do this? One day I would like to know alittle about coding but that's in the future.

Thanks!

Joly

:D

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Well, I learned HTML with a text editor, moved to FP and thought it was great for site management. Then realized it was adding so much overhead I dropped it for my text editor. I still code in a *nix text editor but also use HTML-kit.

Rock on, Bruce! Unless I've missed a post, I think you and I are the only ones who posted here that code using a plain text editor. Yay, we're a clique of two "die-hards!" I think we should call our group the Text Editor Die Hards ... TEDH for short. Actually that sounds a bit like a hospital, doesn't it? TEDH = The Evil District Hospital (or something like that!)

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Well, I learned HTML with a text editor, moved to FP and thought it was great for site management. Then realized it was adding so much overhead I dropped it for my text editor.  I still code in a *nix text editor but also use HTML-kit.

Rock on, Bruce! Unless I've missed a post, I think you and I are the only ones who posted here that code using a plain text editor. Yay, we're a clique of two "die-hards!" I think we should call our group the Text Editor Die Hards ... TEDH for short. Actually that sounds a bit like a hospital, doesn't it? TEDH = The Evil District Hospital (or something like that!)

Old habits are hard to break. I still like knowing the inner workings and not have it all hidden behind a drag and drop WYSIWYG editor.

 

But those editors do have their advantage of making a quick mock up of what you want. B)

 

I'm sure there are a few others that use plain text editors to do their work too.

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I like DW because I can have the code and WYSIWYG page open on the same screen. It comes in handy when I need to tweak something.

No different than sitting with the text editor open and a web broswer with the page loaded you are working on. ;)

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I use the MX version...wish I had the MX 2004 version if for no other reason than it offers "code hints" when writing CSS, just like it does for HTML.
Tracy, MX 2004 does a lot more than just that. It has far better support for CSS and a bunch of other things :)

Check it here:

http://macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/productinfo/newfeatures/

 

By the way, I forgot to mention that I use Bluefish for writing code (http://bluefish.openoffice.nl).

Yes, Raul...I agree with your statement about DWMX 2004. I, however, will NOT go look at all the wonderful things it is offering because I canNOT afford to BUY it...which I would really want to do if I saw it. ;)

 

But yes...I'm sure it is much more great and wonderful than the version I'm using. But I must love mine for now!! :hug:

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Rock on, Bruce! Unless I've missed a post, I think you and I are the only ones who posted here that code using a plain text editor.
Wow, hold on a second, are you trying to lave me behind? I said I use Bluefish for writing code (http://bluefish.openoffice.nl), so don't even think of getting the geek title just for yourselves! :D: ;) Edited by TCH-Raul
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Now see what you all did!!! ;) You have my curiousity up about Dreamweaver so I had to go get a How to Book today and will have to play with the program abit! LOL I'm still going to finish up my site with Frontpage for now but for the near future....I'm thinking Dreamweaver.

 

Joly

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So welcome to the geek club. :P

Hey Bruce! I got a higher geek score than you did and I use DreamWeaver MX2004! What makes text editors geeky? Anyone can use a text editor but how many can make a site in a WYSIWYG that's actually efficient!?!

 

;)

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Hey Bruce!  I got a higher geek score than you did and I use DreamWeaver MX2004!  What makes text editors geeky?  Anyone can use a text editor but how many can make a site in a WYSIWYG that's actually efficient!?! 

 

:P

True, but how many can use a text editor and actually get it to look right! :lol:

 

And you can be in the club too! ;)

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Hey guys, I haven't posted anything in a while cause i've been busy with a new job. I missed ya!

 

I must say...between dreamweaver and frontpage, I prefer dreamweaver. We have frontpage 2003 at our office and it is a lot better than previous verisons especially if you're creating asp pages. But really I only use it to modify nested tables. I hate all of the extra crap it adds. Most of my coding I just throw on notepad.

 

I havent' had a chance to fully play with DreamweaverMX. I'm still using 4.0! I really like it, but have been saving up so I can use the newer version with all of the extra toys!

 

Rock on guys it's good to be back. I forgot how much I liked this forum.

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True, but how many can use a text editor and actually get it to look right!  :lol:

Good point!

And you can be in the club too!  ;)

Shew, thought I was going to have to $t@rt t@lking l33t 0r $0|v|3thing. :lol:

 

(translation: start talking (e)lete or something)

:(

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