jakemtl Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 My domain is www.mtlweddings.com. Some users are seeing my old site on my old host. Others go straight to the new site hosted by you guys. My nameservers are correctly pointed to Totalchoice: Domain servers in listed order: NS1.TOTALCHOICEHOSTING.COM NS2.TOTALCHOICEHOSTING.COM What gives? How come this is happening to some users. I have tried clearing my cache, erasing cookies, etc. I restarted my router. No go. I am not the only one with this issue. My old site pings at 217.160.226.66. The new site should ping on your servers. 66.... Please help. Thanks. Quote
TCH-Dick Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 When did you change the nameservers? Could be that propagation is not complete. Quote
jakemtl Posted May 25, 2004 Author Posted May 25, 2004 Sunday afternoon. But wouldn't it work for everyone? I switched to dialup and I saw the new site. Back to high-speed and back to the old site. Very strange... Quote
jakemtl Posted May 25, 2004 Author Posted May 25, 2004 I am in a bit of a crunch. Have to leave in about 10 minutes. Any suggestions or explanations? Quote
annie Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 Propagation takes quite a while. I still get spam mail via my old host! If you need to see your new host, simply do the hosts file trick in your own computer. For others, you can't predict it, I'm afraid. Quote
TCH-Bruce Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 I am in a bit of a crunch. Have to leave in about 10 minutes. Any suggestions or explanations? Sorry, all you can do is be patient. Propogation can take from 1 to 3 days and sometimes longer. Welcome to the family, jakemtl! Quote
jakemtl Posted May 25, 2004 Author Posted May 25, 2004 I understand it takes time. But shouldn't it be comple in one shot? How can there be differing results. Especially if I switch my high-speed to dialup! Quote
TCH-Rob Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 13 Different name servers across the planet have to be updated. Depending on the one they are accessing will determine what they see as all the name servers update at different times. Then their ISP caching servers may not have updated either. There is no one shot when it comes to DNS updating. Quote
annie Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 Some high speed carriers have been the worst. Found one comcast long after everyone else had switched to the new site. It just depends on when they update the cache on their own DNS servers, and if they somehow get hold of bad data the process can take even longer. My ISP actually refreshed the cache manually for me when I asked, but I suppose that's rather rare! Rather small, and rather good! Quote
TCH-Bruce Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 I'm on Road Runner and the local hub has 5 domain servers that we connect through. When I moved my companies site I saw the new site the same day. The next day it was the old site. And it kept switching back and forth for a week. Quote
TCH-Rob Posted May 25, 2004 Posted May 25, 2004 Some larger ISP's can have more than one caching server and one may update before the other. Depending on the one you hit can determine the results you see, hence what may have been affecting Bruce. Quote
TCH-Bruce Posted May 26, 2004 Posted May 26, 2004 Exactly Rob. Cleared up once all the servers were updated to point to the new location. Quote
rarpsl Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 To understand why it can take a while for the new name servers to kick in you have to look at what happens. Each DNS record has a TTL (Time to Live) entry that states how long it is to be regarded as accurate (and thus how long once a DNS Server retrieves and caches it before it will be regarded as "stale" and thus needing to be refreshed). If the Name Server that was pointing at your old servers says TTL=1 Week (I've seen that and longer at times) for some entry such as a MX or WWW.xxxx A record, once some other server has looked your record up it will "remember" it for that 1 week period. Thus it will take 1 week before everyone knows the new version of the record and/or looks at a new Name Server for the info. Since the other servers only know about your entries IF they have looked at (and thus cached) them, so long as that last look was more than TTL ago, they will get the new version immediately. Any that have looked within the TTL time frame will wait until the remaining time is over before doing another lookup and thus getting the correct/current version. IOW: If they last looked 6 Days ago (and thus the remaining TTL is 1 Day) then they will get the newer info the next time that they need it after the expiration of that TTL period. Quote
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