annie Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 One of the actors sent me the address for his new website. I did a whois lookup, and noticed that he seemed to be hosted with Networksolutions or Valueweb. Check both webpages, and saw that the starter webhosting plan was 19.95 a month! Told the guy that maybe he should think about switching hosts. My question is, why would that be a good deal? Naturally I'm biased, since I told him to switch to TCH. But I guess what's REALLY gnawing at me is if Networksolutions is scamming newbies with a high price because they can? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqFlare Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Some companies will make a buck in whatever way they can. Since taking an economics class this past semester, I understand why stuff like this happens, and how it affects the economy... Don't sweat it. In the long run, they won't be able to charge that amount of money. They will HAVE to come down sooner or later, or be forced out of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annie Posted May 20, 2004 Author Share Posted May 20, 2004 They at least used to have a good rep for dedicated servers. The price for simple webhosting was probably OK a few years ago, but not now. BTW, I found valueweb on epinions, but didn't find Total Choice! Time to shuffle, guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCH-Rob Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Remember that the adage "you get what you pay for" is alive and well. As well as buying from a well known name. People will pay more from a name they are familiar with believing they are getting something for the extra money they are paying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 I too did not understand why some people would charge higher prices, the truth of the matter is, TCH builds their servers, therefore they do not have to pay the large ammount it costs to buy servers from a company. Some places buy Namebrand servers, which are going to cost more, you will understand this if someone has ever asked you 'Why do you want a namebrand shoe, which will be messed up in a week, when you can buy a shoe for half the price, which will last you alot longer.' Some people pay alot more than others simply because they want people to know they have the money, like people who buy houses that could house the entire population of the united states!<( Is an example, not sure if someone actually has that big of a house) Also, some have faster servers than others, where one company might be on a t1 line, some might be on a t3 line. Different people think that different prices are better than others. There are alot of sites out there that offer more than TCH for less of a price, but after you deal with them awhile, you start to notice the little details in the fine print. Like "Unlimited bandwidth" Check out there Terms of service " We reserve the right to charge for any abnormally large usage ammount of our resources, including CPU, Space, BANDWIDTH, and all other resources." or " We do not allow any types of programs, software, hotlinking." What would u ever need unlimited bandwidth for something that does not allow stuff that all websites have? Guess they should have read the fine print huh? Just my 5 cents. -Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deverill Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Netsol is the default for lots of folks. Awhile back they were THE place to get your domain name registered. Since then there are a bunch more at much cheaper rates but the one with the reputation and "big name" is Netsol. We have an "internet department" at my day-job and they have probably without exaggeration hundreds of domains registered and every one of them is causing them to hemmorage $35/year when others can be had for $10 or less. Of course, when I brought it up I got blank deer-in-the-headlights looks and then a "who do you think you are? WE are the internet department!" attitude. <sigh> It's all about reputation (earned or not!), uneducated users and marketing hype. Unfortunately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqFlare Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Speaking of brand-name... (Something else I learned in my Econ class) Did you know that brand-name LEGAL drugs (Prozac, for example) are all the same? Once a patent runs out for a new drug, this horde of non-brand-name types comes out. Did you know that the name-brand drug is exactly the same as these no-name brands? Yet is costs more? Remember that when you're getting some medication. If there's a no-name available, get it, because it is chemically identical to the name-brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deverill Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 I would say that is true of the pharmacies in the US, but I'd think that these mail-order pills from certain other countries would be questionable at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThumpAZ Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Not picking at ya, Alan, just letting you in on some things that you may not actually know. I too did not understand why some people would charge higher prices, the truth of the matter is, TCH builds their servers, therefore they do not have to pay the large ammount it costs to buy servers from a company. Actually, TCH uses Dell Servers, and then might add RAM or larger drives, but the platform is definitely server-class and very good. Some places buy Namebrand servers, which are going to cost more, you will understand this if someone has ever asked you 'Why do you want a namebrand shoe, which will be messed up in a week, when you can buy a shoe for half the price, which will last you alot longer.' See above, regarding the hardware Some people pay alot more than others simply because they want people to know they have the money, like people who buy houses that could house the entire population of the united states!<( Is an example, not sure if someone actually has that big of a house) It is called living within your means, and i know what you mean. Some folks just want to say "we are bigger, so we should spend more money. This is even if they don't get the value, services or quality that they can get for less. My wife wanted some new purse... it was like $1000!! I told her that she can get it when... Also, some have faster servers than others, where one company might be on a t1 line, some might be on a t3 line. If anyone tried to serve virtual acocunts on anything less than an OC12, then the customers would definitely not be happy. T1 is good for VPN and internal Intranets, and maybe for the occasional company or personal site that is the only thing on the box but not for anything that is high-traffic or sharing space with other sites. Different people think that different prices are better than others. This goes back to the statement about paying more just because it seems better, good point On a side note, and something that supports NetSol's higher price... to a slight extent, is that they offer Service Level Agreements (SLA) and Uptime Gaurantees. This means that when you have an outtage, you get prorated or refunded service costs. They also have a phone support center. This is man-hours they have to pay whether used or not. However, I have used them as a host and their level 1 and 2 techs tend to leave a LOT to be desired. Just my additoins to clarify a couple of things and add to Alan's 5 cents. I think the total would be about 8 cents now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 Just so no misunderstandings glenn, hehe was not putting TCH Down I mean, I love me host But I actually thought when people say "TCH builds their own servers" It means, bill has people who actually build the servers from the floor up hehe. Like a "Bill's Hosting Servers" namebrand or something. My wife wanted some new purse... it was like $1000!! I told her that she can get it when... My mom said the same thing about some of the cloths I like wearing, and about me wanting to move out of state on my 18th birthday. so now I work one part time job, and one full time job. And end up still having my life wrapped around the computer. LOL But we have a deal, mom and dad are paying for my first year of college, so I want USM, and then I might have to wait for the rest. Major in Emergency Medical. Not sure of a minor yet, maybe computer science? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqFlare Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 Never buy more than you can enjoy. If you buy some gigantic house and aren't going to use it, you're wasting a lot of utility and will probably enjoy it less than a smaller house. Utility = Enjoyment level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boojum Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 As the old song has it, "Ya Gotta Shop Around." It is generally true that generic equivalents are functionally identical to name brands, and in those cases it is uninformed consumers who are naively paying more than they need to for the spurious reassurance of the big, familiar company name. This is mostly a matter of good old American economic laziness: people not taking the trouble to inform themselves of their choices and the potential consequences thereof. But: There are exceptions to this, and TCH-Robert unwittingly picked one of them as an example of the advantages of generic buying. As it happens, I have a close family member who suffers from clinical depression and takes Prozac. Not long ago, her health-care provider tried to switch her to the generic equivalent. She fell apart. Now, I might be inclined to dismiss this as a case of placebo effect, except that I did some research and found that, not only do many patients find the generic equivalent ineffective, but pharmacists admit that, for whatever reason, the biological availability of fluoxetine in the generic product does not match that of the name brand. So: Ya gotta shop around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqFlare Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Hmm. I'll have to look into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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